Newbie wanting input

[ArtyC]

I have weight trained on and off for years, but have let myself go a great deal; the last 5 yrs.

Im looking to start a heavily regimented program. Im 33, 5'11 and weigh 425 lb.

Obviously, I got a great deal of work ahead of me. I saw on a roid dealer site, that a good starter pack is a cycle of: Trebolone, Winstrol, Clenbuterol, and Anavar.

I did some research and found, that these are all good fat reducers, and give you decent muscle gain.

Offcourse, this is the first time I will ever take juice. Is there anything an experienced user, and weight lifter; would add?

Any help here, would be appreciated.

[scotty51312]

I hope this is a joke.

If you're 425lbs you don't need steroids. You need a treadmill and a diet. Possibly a gastric bipass. Being morbidly obiese you're heart is under a lot of stress already and definitley doesn't need clenbuterol. Why don't you go to our diet forum and start looking for help there

[Knockout_Power]

Please do not touch any of those compounds if you are severely over weight. Not trying to sound like a jerk, but cycling while in poor condition can be very bad for your body. Most people will not recommend cycling if you are over 12-14% bodyfat.

Diet and excersise will yeild far greater results than steroids...

[ArtyC]

Problem is, I went back to the gym a month ago. Because of my weight, I hit the treadmill, and burn out easily. I hit the weights, and im sore for days. Im looking to find a way, to reduce my heal time.

[jtuner77]

Eat right.....that will fix your soreness. Tons of water, proper vitamins and proper diet will cure that. Not clen or sauce. I didn't want to listen to what all the other guys have just told you either but they are dam right.

[Matt]

No pain no gain...

[songdog]

you need to drop a few lbs bro.Before you think of cycling

[Cracovia82]

425 and u want to juice?! Common man, that's even worse then these 18 yr olds jumping on that. Diet, diet, diet and cardio of course.

[redz]

You would have a high risk of heart problems running all those compounds at that weight. You need cardio adn diet.

[magicstick2003]

like everyone said you need to stay away from any AS or or anything like clen. At that weight youre whole body is stressed to the max. You need to start slow and focus on cardio. Also need to get your diet in order, in all reality seeing a nutritionist may give you a slight edge over doing it yourself. Also if youre willing to spend money on AS invest that money in a trainer, read somewhere a study that showed people who had a trainer or workout partner were much more likely to stick with their workout program. Also face the fact you're going to be sore until your body starts to drop some lbs and you're muscle and joints get accustomed to the workouts.

[Bonaparte]

That stack would probably put you in the ER.

[higgy]

If you get burned out and sore now, what the hell do you think will happen if you take juice. Man you need to get in shape first, maybe a personal trainer to help you get back in the game.


How much did you weigh when you still worked out???

[ArtyC]

250 lb, but it was muscle. Infact, I still have muscle mass, under the fat. I got hurt, leg injury about 5yrs ago. Lazyness set in, and here I am. I only asked about those products, because I was told they were great fat burners, that still gave lean muscle.

Im not looking for a magic pill, just a good push.

[Knockout_Power]

Heres a quick breakdown of those products you listed and what they will do

Tren: tren cough is the nastiest thing you will ever experience. If you think you are out of breathe now, triple that on tren, you will get tired trying to push a shit out

Clen: heavy stimulant. In your current condition, if you get your heart racing you can/will end up with a heart attack

Winstrol: extremely painful to inject and not that effective in dropping any significant amount of weight. Its what someone who is already lean uses to get that last little bit off, not drop 100lbs

Anavar: see winstrol, but less effective at buring fat, very expensive, and you will see nothing from it at your current condition.

[ArtyC]

Well, I asked for input, and I got it. Thanx for the input guys.

[Knockout_Power]

Well, I asked for input, and I got it. Thanx for the input guys.

I know its tough to hear things that go against what you want to do, but trust us, this is for your safety, not so we can try and make jokes. When I was overweight (almost 50lbs) I thought the same thing, just a quick cycle and I'll kick my ass into gear. Turned out about 6 months and some help from the diet experts and I turned into the guy in my picture.

Head to the diet section and rack those guys brains, they know a ton of great info

[Cracovia82]

I know its tough to hear things that go against what you want to do, but trust us, this is for your safety, not so we can try and make jokes. When I was overweight (almost 50lbs) I thought the same thing, just a quick cycle and I'll kick my ass into gear. Turned out about 6 months and some help from the diet experts and I turned into the guy in my picture.

Head to the diet section and rack those guys brains, they know a ton of great info

That's some solid advice there.

[cro]

start eating right and not eating after dinner

[Blade15]

If you want to stack anything... then stack diet and cardio bro...

[Minion0812]

LOL isn't it funny how guys say they did the research but then state they are 400+ and want to get into roids? lol crazy!!!

[Blade15]

Agreed^^ 10x