What estrogen inhibitors should be used with/post cycle? The stickies only confuse in this sense. Thanks.
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What estrogen inhibitors should be used with/post cycle? The stickies only confuse in this sense. Thanks.
the way i understand it is, nolva and clomid for pct. adex ED during cycle to prevent gyno and if you do get gyno letro will reverse it
You want to use SERMs in PCT for restarting a shutdown HPTA. ie Nolva and clomidQuote:
Originally Posted by alidia
arimidex is mostly used on cycle to minimize the effects of elivated estrogen levels in the body. elivated estrogen levels can cause water retention, fat gain and gyno to name a few)
letrozoleis mostly used for people with severe gyno problems on or off cycle, its one of the strongest aromatase inhibitors. Using this for any other reason than to rid your body of MOST of its estrogen (to reverse actual visible gyno) would be pointless. Using this on cycle would probly effect your gains. also having estrogen extremely low would be a great health risk...
nolvais the most commonly used drug for PCT, its an anti estrogen and it also raises your natural testosterone after a cycle, which is usually very low. Some people who are prone to gyno might even add this in at a low dose when there on cycle, just to give them piece of mind that gyno wont appear.
clomid very similar to nolva, but lots more of it is needed (mgs) to have the same effect as nolva. so its an anti estrogen, and it also raises/releases natural testosterone levels after a cycle.
General guidlines for on cycle estrogen control would be to use arimidex at a dose as low as .25mgs eod. This would safely keep estrogen a bay for most, but could be raised if need be.
Post cycle therapy would consist of an anti estrogen and a SERM ( selective androgen receptor modulator ), these two combined will help raise your natural test, and will also keep estrogen at bay.
HCG - most will also use HCG on cycle right through to the early stages of pct. HCG is used to ensure that your testicals keep there size and function during cycle, as you may or may not know some people experience testicular shrinkage whilst on cycle, this drugs helps you stop the shrinkage and stop you testys from losing there function...
ON CYCLE
0.25 mgs arimidex every other day / every 3rd day.
HCG - doses vary from person to person, most people shoot HCG 3 times a week on cycle to maintain testys size. some shoot low doses more often, others higher doses less often. many use hcg right through till the second week of pct, as it sometimes increases estrogen levels (by taking it through till pct you have serms and anti e's to stop HCGs estrogen elevating effects)
PCT
pcts usually consist of a basic mixture of two or three compounds. usually nolva and clomid, and somtimes with the addition of HCG to boot. depending on what compounds you are taking for your cycle, you must start your pct at the correct time, steroids and testosterones all have different half lifes and clearance times so you must ensure you pct is started at the right time.
The following is a pct for someone who has just completed there first cycle of test ( long ester ) for 12 weeks. pct would start 2 weeks from you last injection, and would last four to six weeks.
nolva - 40/40/40/20 (mgs)
clomid - 100/100/50/50 (mgs)
oh shit, in the time it took me to right this, the op probly got an answer else were ! lol, oh well, its good revision for me...
cool avi marcus, one of your own ?
Awesome stuff BIG thanks for posting!!
Thanks so much big 1! Awesome
Nolva and clomid for your pct, and if you need an ai during cycle go with adex or exemestane.