Review Please

[bsny84]

Hi everyone,
I am not a newbie but just looking for experienced advice on my 1st stacking cycle. Here are some facts first followed by gear:

I'm 27yr old
6'0
185 lbs
working out for 3 years

first gear was Winny 100mg EOD for 2 months

Diet is on point. Breakfast either Chobani, Egg whites w turkey on whole wheat w hot sauce, or oatmeal

Snack is Nitro -Tech Protein Shake and banana

Lunch: Either Tuna on Whole grain w honey mustard or grill Chix on whole wheat w honey mustard, or Baby spinach w Grill Chix Veggies and oil and Balsamic Vin.

Snack Nitro Tech Protein Shake

Dinner: 9oz Steak or Grill Chix tossed in Romaine let, w Vinegar, Greens, some starch typically a potato or w a small amount of Pasta

GYM typically 4- 6 days a week w/ an hour 15 min of lifting and 15-20 cardio walking or jogging, or bike

Followed by Shake Whey W/ Casein
2 scoops of peanut Butter and sometimes some raw carrots or celery

NOW TO THE GOOD STUFF: I am looking to gain some real solid strength and some mass but with real definition and tighten up big time but really don't want CRAZY sides:

Want to run a 8week

Option 1:

100mg Test prop. EOD
100mg Tren Acetate EOD
and week 4 - 8 50mg Winny ED (oral)
throughout cycle until 10 days later Anastrozole 1/2 tab of 1mg
Proviron 50mg ED
PCT
Clomid 100mg ED 4 weeks
HCG 5000 IU every 5 days 4 weeks

OR

100mg Test Prop EOD
50mg Anavar (oral)
50MG ED Winny Injectable
throughout cycle until 10 days later Anastrozole 1/2 tab of 1mg
PCT
Clomid 100mg ED 4 weeks
Nolvadex 50mg ED 4 weeks

I really appreciate all of your input and help look forward to hearing from you !!

[ucf465]

Drop the tren all together. its a very powerful compound and should only be used by ADVANCED users.

100mgs of prop eod is a little on the low side.

anavar is a great and very mild addition, just break up the dosing thru out the day and get some liv 52

as far as winny goes, i dont really know much about it so just wait on more input from the other members.

[MBMETC]

Your cycle experience is winni only and you propose a second cycle like that. Dude if you wanna make gains scrap the kid diet and put together a real plan and train harder I see no reason why at 6 foot you can't sit 200-210 naturally. Also you lifting too much an hour and fifteen mins 6 days a week is overkill. Rework your program and diet and you'll see gains without gear

[Blade15]

Agreed MBMetc...

[LatissimusaurousRex]

Yeah, def get over to the diet section man. Unless you're already completely shredded, you're a bit skinny.

[bsny84]

Yea , thanks for the help so I should rework my diet , and cut down time and frequency ... I do appreciate this I just been doing so much rsearch I thought I had this nailed but that's why I figured id ask .... UFC465 I like cutting out winny I hear nothing but positive things w Var ... And I hear UDFC is better then liv and milk thistle any truth to this ??