First cycle questions

**BigandStrong** · 04-15-2011, 12:33 PM

Hi

I'm getting ready to start my first cycle in 2 weeks. Since this is my first time pinning where is the best place for me to pin? Would it be my quads? Also do you recommend 25 or 23 g needles. I have read all the possible stickies but I haven't come across one answering these questions. Here's what my cycle looks like:

Week 1-4 20 mg Dianabol
Week 1-10 400 mg Test E (200 mg mon morning and thurs night)

Week 12-15 Nolva 40/40/20/20

Thank you guys for sharing knowledge and giving advice.

***D7M*** · 04-15-2011, 12:47 PM

Not too bad, looks like you did some research.

Stats?

**BigandStrong** · 04-15-2011, 01:49 PM

I'm 6'0"
24 years old
Training for 3 years
Weight 185 lbs.
I dont know my bodyfat but I can see my abs so maybe 10-13%?

**MBMETC** · 04-15-2011, 01:51 PM

Originally Posted by BigandStrong

I'm 6'0"
24 years old
Training for 3 years
Weight 185 lbs.
I dont know my bodyfat but I can see my abs so maybe 10-13%?

hows your diet at 6 foot i would think more can be achieved naturally.

**07santafe** · 04-15-2011, 02:21 PM

i personally would think quads would hurt but im glad you asked this because ive been wondering the same thing quads just seem like a harder place to do it i think glute would probably be the easist. glad you asked though so we can both get a little advice. and do you have anything in case of gyno?

**BigandStrong** · 04-15-2011, 04:04 PM

My diet is in check. It is good I know that for sure because I was at 200 lbs. but when I started soccer for my college I lost 15 lbs. Done with that now.

I have letro for gyno as well.

**MrBucket22** · 04-15-2011, 05:00 PM

add some hcg while on, 250IU 2-3x/wk

**BigandStrong** · 04-15-2011, 05:43 PM

Made a thread couple weeks ago about this and most of the guys said its not really necessary. I know it can't hurt but I already have everything. Any suggestions about where to inject for the first time. The ass seems like an awkward and difgicult position so I was thinking quads?

**songdog** · 04-15-2011, 06:16 PM

Stick to 1 compound on your 1st cycle.Just in case you have a bad reaction.You will know wat it is.Your pct is weak.You need to add hcg or clomid.Read sticky on pct.You can inject high on the quad delt or glute.Good luck.

**Blade15** · 04-16-2011, 01:14 AM

Originally Posted by MBMETC

hows your diet at 6 foot i would think more can be achieved naturally.

Agreed 100X...

**Times Roman** · 04-16-2011, 09:46 AM

23ga in the quads is fine.
skip the dbol first cycle, go with test only, so you understand what it does for your body.
the test doseage looks right for a first cycle.

**BigandStrong** · 04-17-2011, 03:01 PM

Ok ill drop the dbol and add some clomid.
should I run it at 100,100,50,50? And thanks for the injection info I hope I dont hit a nerve lol

Thanks songdog,blade and roman!

**Cracovia82** · 04-17-2011, 04:28 PM

Xxxx

**cyounger100** · 04-17-2011, 06:20 PM

Originally Posted by MBMETC

hows your diet at 6 foot i would think more can be achieved naturally.

def agree you are my height and i waited till i hit 200 lbs before considering cycle you can gain alot more naturally before you go down this road

**BigandStrong** · 04-18-2011, 01:10 PM

Even though this is my first cycle the reason I added the dianabol was to start seeing results instantly because as you know test e takes 3-4 weeks to start noticing anything. Well I was reading through the edu threads and came across frontloading. If I frontloaded the test would I start seeing results just as quick as I would with the dianabol? Can you guestimate how long until I started seeing results assuming I frontloaded with 800 mg.

Thank yall so much for being so helpful andfor the good advice.

Bigandstrong

**brad1986** · 04-18-2011, 01:14 PM

drop dbol . save it for next go around. Def add clomid to pct 100/100/50/50 and nolva just how you planned. Good to see some people actually research before jumpin on the gear. good luck man! eat big

**Thedud3** · 04-18-2011, 01:15 PM

1n1/2 inch 21g I prefer delts but quads can do care about vessels

**BigandStrong** · 04-18-2011, 04:55 PM

Ok thanks. And bump to my question about the frontloading.

**BigandStrong** · 04-19-2011, 10:24 AM

Anyone has the answer to if frontloading test will kick in as quick as the dbol ?

**MBMETC** · 04-19-2011, 10:28 AM

Originally Posted by BigandStrong

Anyone has the answer to if frontloading test will kick in as quick as the dbol?

im gonna say no, the d-bol will hit you quicke,r imo

**BigandStrong** · 04-20-2011, 04:40 PM

Ok thanks. Also would running nolva 10 mg a day be sufficient instead of using an AI for estrogen control and gyno problems? and would running nolva at this dose inhibit any gains?

thanks for the input!

**BigandStrong** · 04-21-2011, 10:33 AM

Bump

**progressive1** · 04-21-2011, 11:36 AM

I've been pinning with 1" 23g needles in alternating quads with no problem at all. I prefer quads over glutes given awkward position to inj in glutes.