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    First Cycle Question

    Gonna run Test E 500/week and might add Dbol with it for 4 weeks, whats a good PCT? with this cycle Nolva?, Clomi? or both. also do i need HCG for this cycle is it necessary? and for AI , arimidex or aromasin ? can someone help me explaining when to take and how much to take of which.. Thx in advance

    152 lbs
    29 Yrs Old
    not sure of bf%
    1-2 Yrs Exp. Lifting (on and off)

    1-12 Test E
    1-4 Dbol (Not sure yet)
    AI ??
    PCT??
    HCG??

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    yes, you need hcg and aromasin
    how tall are you?
    clomid/nolva for pct

    how tall are you?
    152lbs and worked out off and on for 1-2 yrs, im sure you can make solid gains with consistency in diet and workouts without the use of hormones

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    just the test alone for a 1st go mate.

    have an AI like adex on hand if any gyno shows up, if so then use .25mg eod and increase to .5mg if necessary (unlikely you'd need to increase though, unless very sensitive to gyno symptoms)

    pct: 14 days after last inject, dont start any cycle without having your pct on you.

    clomid 50/50/50/50/50/50
    nolva 20/20/20/20/20/20

    these lower dose and slightly longer pct's are the way to go.

    as for hcg , prob not required on a lightish cycle, but does no harm, inject 250iu's e3d (may want to check swiftos thread on pct's in tht section, incase he's come up with a more effective protocol since i was using it)
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    thx for the quick reply guys, sry forgot to add my height im 5'5"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spike204 View Post
    thx for the quick reply guys, sry forgot to add my height im 5'5"
    was just about to comment on your weight but i see you're 5'5.

    1-2yrs on and off is a bit vague, best post a pic or 2 so we can see what your base is like before starting anything mate.

    pardon my skim reading on your OP

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    I'd run Prop for 8 weeks. I didn't see much gains after 8 weeks.

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    Height???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blade15 View Post
    Height???
    he's 5'5 as posted

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    sorry i missed that...

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    spike ..i think you should get to 180 naturally...

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