My first Cycle - What do ya say

[MoneyBagz]

Okay, so thank you to all who take the time to help me out
this will potentially be my first cycle of AAS

I am a 20 year old male weighing in at about 195-200 lbs
Ive been working out for 3 years, Ive been using: protein, glutamine, purple k and 1MR/superpump for about 2 years. Three years ago i didnt know shit about shit when it came to working out.

anyways, I feel like ive reached a point where I am interested in taking a step further. I was planning on doing just a simple anavar cycle for 8 weeks, but realized that the price would be almost as much as a serious cycle. I dont particularily need to cut down (the anavar), it just was appealing because I could get my foot in the door safely.

I have planned out a second cycle, which would be:
Test E, Dbol, finish with anavar

Im looking to run this for about 8 weeks ISH. Test would be on M,W,F and dbol everyday.

Im looking for feedback on this setup, recomended dossages, and also proper pct with emphasis on dosages and time. I understand the roles of nova and clomid however i dont know which to use, how much to use, when to use ect.

also any comments on the area of hairloss would be insightful as well

Thank you

[Tlee8769]

Sorry to tell you bud you wont get to much info on this site for underage usage your 20 you sky is the limit for ya with proper diet. You are nowhere near where you have to be to start AAS. There are so many effects on your health when you are that young using steroids. Here is some good info by marcus read up and keep reading the threads cause you are no where near ready my friend.

There isn't an exact age were we all stop developing and growing because this is determined by our genes and DNA, we are all genetically programmed individually and we inherit our genes from our parents. To give an exact age we stop growing would be incorrect because everyone's genetic blueprint is different.The main development of our bodies is up to the age of 21yrs of age but this can vary between individuals. There are parts of our bodies what carry on developing and adjusting slowly up until the age of 25yrs old, an example of this is the brain. The Endocrine system is a part of the brain what is very complex and keeps our bodies in a homeostasis state. Our testosterone levels start raising and roughly peak around 25yrs old and then start to slowly decline, so even though some of us may have stopped growing at the age of 21yrs old, others may still be developing up until the age of 25yrs old.

I have recently spoken to my Endo regarding this matter and he tells me that the HPTA is very sensitive and as many pathways how it regulates the human body, he states steroids disrupt the normal balance of hormones in the body which can cause reversible and irreversible changes at any age but risks are far more if you administrate exogenous androgens during development, this will put you in a very unnatural environment at a crucial time and your hormones should be treated with care especially in the early stages of maturity. The adverse effects can be erratic behaviour of the HPTA and potentially therapy when your older.

I did ask him what age he would think would be the safest as far as risk to damages and he said many endocrinologist suggest full maturation is reached by 25 years of age and this would also give the HPTA time to be established with your natural hormone balance and patterns. I personally feel 24-25yrs old would also be ideal starting point to get bloodwrok drawn to see exact what your natural levels are before starting any kind of cycles and waiting till you have reach your testosterone peak would be a good starting point, for me there is to much evidence over the forums and what I've seen personally over the last 25yrs I've been bodybuilding. Obviously it isn't going to be all 19- 21yr old bodybuilders who suffer side effects what are irreversible but I am edging on the side of caution what age I advice to the newbies.

[Times Roman]

This board does NOT condone aas useage for individuals your age.

We feel your focus should be on diet and exercise until you are about 25, working on building a natural foundation.

ED (and many other problems) is a problem for us older bulls. Do you really want to take a chance and get it at such a young age?

[songdog]

Read the rules sorry bro.

[200gamblr]

Said it before will say it again, came in here at 23 yrs old asked the same thing you did, got the same answer you got and went off and cycled any way. Worse mistake I have ever made. Messed up all my natural growth and test. Take my advice and listen to these blokes.

[MoneyBagz]

posted this last night before bed
thanks to all who had input

i see where your all coming from, and its something to "consider" i guess as i havnt made any final decisions yet

if anyone has anything else to add feel free to post

[Blade15]

Wait for 5 yrs...