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    test e,c or p for first cycle?

    title pretty much says it all, which do you think works best for a first cycle option?

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    E or C work quite well on their own. While Prop also works well it is normally not reccomended for a first cycle since it requires pinning at lead EOD with ED pinning being ideal. That said myself and several friends have used Prop as a first cycle, if you can handle the pinning it allows you to run a short 6 wk cycle which allows for a quick troublefree PCT. My thought is if you are not fianancially challenged, then go ahead and buy enough prop to do a 6 wk cycle as well as enough enan or cyp to do a 10 wk cycle. If all goes well with the pinning then cotinue on and do the 6 wk prop cycle, if after a few days the pain is too great then switch to the enan of cyp for the balance of your 10 wk cycle.
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    Whats your stats ?

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    cyp works good for pinning weekly, and the hospitals in cali use it.

    over here in afghanistan, enth is what is available, but very close to the same half life, so still good.

    p is too short, i think someone above me said, and frequent pinning, probably not good for a first timer. you can make it work if that is all you have access to.

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    I agree test c or e would be a better choice for a first time pinner.

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    my plan was to do 400mg of test p a week, would i still do 400mg a week but just of c or e?

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    Yeah do anywhere from 400 to 500 a week of C or E. Im using test e 500 a week and seems do be doing awesome best of luck bro

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    ok great thanks.

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    test C is banging lol but E is very similar so its really a matter of choice or whats available...

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    ive heard and read a lot about test c and e and know they are very similar in function and pinning, what are the differences between them?

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    Just remember if you have to do daily shots as a newbie on a 6 week course, thats 42 friggen shots. Just consider your body a pin cushion.

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    yea and im not sure how ill do with needles so the less the better

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    Quote Originally Posted by gthom47 View Post
    ive heard and read a lot about test c and e and know they are very similar in function and pinning, what are the differences between them?
    Test is Test bud from what i have heard from people that have done all 3, C is a bit longer acting so you have to start you PCT later than E. I have friends that prefer E over C and vice verca. My next cycle i will try C and my third i will try p to see what the real difference is. But 42 shots is a lot of pinning lol.

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    you could do any in theory but until you're totally comfortable with pinning and pinning afew diff sites i'd leave the prop for a cycle or two and stick with e or c

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tlee8769 View Post
    Test is Test bud from what i have heard from people that have done all 3, C is a bit longer acting so you have to start you PCT later than E. I have friends that prefer E over C and vice verca. My next cycle i will try C and my third i will try p to see what the real difference is. But 42 shots is a lot of pinning lol.
    no, start it just the same mate

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    test p simple reason.....in and out of system quick just in case if u had sides......pinning daily will be a bitch though( now some one will correct once in 2 days i like mine ed)

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