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    First Cycle Advice Needed

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    190lbs
    12-14% BF

    Trying to put together a first cycle plan. I want to do a 9 week Test only cycle with a simple PCT of Nolv & HCG.

    Week 1-9 Testosterone Cypionate 400mg / Weekly
    Week 10-12 HCG 1100 IU / 3x Weekly + Nolvadex 20mg / Daily
    Week 13-15 Nolvadex 20mg / Daily

    Does my PCT look to be sufficient? Thanks for any Info.
    Last edited by AceSniper; 04-27-2011 at 10:48 AM.

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    Would this be a better cycle then?

    Week 1-9 Testosterone Cypionate 400mg / Weekly
    Week 7-9 HCG 1100 IU / 3x Weekly
    Week 10-15 Nolvadex 20mg / Daily
    Last edited by AceSniper; 04-27-2011 at 11:02 AM.

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    Would it be a better idea to run the 6 weeks of Nolvadex - 40 40 20 20 10 10 instead of 20 ed?
    Last edited by AceSniper; 04-27-2011 at 11:44 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AceSniper View Post
    Does anyone else have any advice on how i can improve this cycle?
    yes eat more, your too light for your hieght. i know its not what you want to hear but if you can not make gains naturally and keep them you will only be wasting your money and gear.

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    You need to run the cyp for longer than 9 wks go for 10-12 weeks IMHO,
    You also need to run HCG during the cycle at 250ius 2 x weekly,
    You need to start pct 18 days after your last shot of cyp, nolva 40/20/20/20 clomid 100/50/50/50

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    Thanks for the Response
    So the HCG is better spread throughout the cycle rather then used during the last 3 weeks of it?
    Will i need both Nolva and Chlomid or can i get away with only using Nolva?
    Also does 40/20/20/20 mean
    Week 1 40 ed
    Week 2 20 ed
    Week 3 20 ed
    Week 4 20 ed
    ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AceSniper View Post
    Thanks for the Response
    So the HCG is better spread throughout the cycle rather then used during the last 3 weeks of it?-yes
    Will i need both Nolva and Chlomid or can i get away with only using Nolva?-2 serms are reccomendedadd clomid 100/100/50/50
    Also does 40/20/20/20 mean
    Week 1 40 ed
    Week 2 20 ed
    Week 3 20 ed
    Week 4 20 ed
    ?
    -yes

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    Quote Originally Posted by AceSniper View Post
    Thanks for the Response
    So the HCG is better spread throughout the cycle rather then used during the last 3 weeks of it?
    Will i need both Nolva and Chlomid or can i get away with only using Nolva?
    Also does 40/20/20/20 mean
    Week 1 40 ed
    Week 2 20 ed
    Week 3 20 ed
    Week 4 20 ed
    ?
    Yes you could well recover just fine with nolva but that's your choice, nolva and clomid is a standard pct protocol and works well. Running hcg during the cycle will maintain testicular size and function even though there are many ways to run hcg, running during the cycle is a well proven method and one I recommend

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    Marcus is right dude, hcg is good to use throughout your cyce. and hcg can be taken intra-muscular aswell so if your doing your test shots twice a week then throw in 250 iu of hcg with each of your test shots and your good to go

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    Your right I shouldn't risk it with Nolva alone. Ill add Chlomid in there for 4 weeks. Also added an extra week of Test.

    Week 1-10 Testosterone Cypionate 400mg / Weekly
    Week 1-10 HCG 250 IU / 2x Weekly
    Week 11-14 Nolvadex 40/20/20/20 / Daily
    Week 11-14 Chlomid 100/100/50/50 / Daily

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    im not sure if im 100% right on this but if cypoionate is a long ester steroid then it wont kick in to at least 4 weeks into the cycle at that does, so im thinking you can probably wait until week 4 to start the hcg IMO but someone else might need to check on that

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    Hmm good point, but im not sure about that. Can anyone shed some light on if HCG should begin 4th week due to Cypionate being a long ester test?

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    Good luck to you for your cycle...

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