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**number twelve** · 04-25-2011, 09:19 AM

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**fabiog** · 04-25-2011, 09:54 AM

all those products will make your gains poor.
every article i have readed about this products tell that they affect women hormones so its up to you to decide- btw ppl get good results for hair regrowing -but its just the scalp front part is a no way. for me its kinda of a decision be a man or be a women? want muscle or hair an then boobs?

so...
you get good results with 350mg test? now you going to 250? what?

primo 600 split it in 2 shots
deca 400 split it in 2 shots

first i have seen your age then why you use so few test? last was 350mg go to test e 500
and do just 10 weeks or 12 max dont get too exposed your endogenous system can crack.

prevention about hair loss? only thing i can advice is a good PCT SERMS style.

take care,
Fabio

**Dukkit** · 04-25-2011, 09:59 AM

Im a big fan of Masteron .

Lean gains, crazy strength, no sides.

I didnt suffer any hairloss from it at 350mg a week.

Primo is a tricky compound, has to be ran for a long period of time and is a weak compound in comparison to others. Unless you are already super lean, I wouldnt bother.

If you dont want to be bloated for the summer, then skip the Deca .

I ran 350 of Test and 350 of Mast last summer and loved it.

Id also suggest using the Prop with it.

Zero bloat, lean solid gains. And youll feel good.

I had no sides on that cycle.

**Dukkit** · 04-25-2011, 10:00 AM

As for helping with the hair... I do like Nizoral 2%.

But thinning hair isnt my problem, my receeding hairline is. lol

**number twelve** · 04-25-2011, 10:20 AM

Originally Posted by dukkitdalaw

As for helping with the hair... I do like Nizoral 2%.

But thinning hair isnt my problem, my receeding hairline is. lol

yeah i guess receding hairline would be a better description of my issue. thanks bro. I was thinking about mast/prop too. that might be the one I go with, thanks

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**number twelve** · 04-25-2011, 10:21 AM

Originally Posted by fabiog

all those products will make your gains poor.
every article i have readed about this products tell that they affect women hormones so its up to you to decide- btw ppl get good results for hair regrowing -but its just the scalp front part is a no way. for me its kinda of a decision be a man or be a women? want muscle or hair an then boobs?

so...
you get good results with 350mg test? now you going to 250? what?

primo 600 split it in 2 shots
deca 400 split it in 2 shots

first i have seen your age then why you use so few test? last was 350mg go to test e 500
and do just 10 weeks or 12 max dont get too exposed your endogenous system can crack.

prevention about hair loss? only thing i can advice is a good PCT SERMS style.

take care,
Fabio

I have done higher test in the past, it just bloated me and made me even more of a sexual delinquent. I tried lowering my dose on my past cycle, and didnt see any negative effects

**Dukkit** · 04-25-2011, 10:42 AM

Yeah the Mast didnt affect my hairline in terms of the receeding at all.

At a dose of 350 or so, I wouldnt worry about it.

**number twelve** · 04-25-2011, 01:10 PM

Originally Posted by dukkitdalaw

Yeah the Mast didnt affect my hairline in terms of the receeding at all.

At a dose of 350 or so, I wouldnt worry about it.

nice sounds like we have a winner then! lol thanks duk

**warren916** · 04-25-2011, 01:21 PM

10mg dbol preworkout...is this a joke? I REALLY hope so.

**fabiog** · 04-25-2011, 01:27 PM

Originally Posted by number twelve

I have done higher test in the past, it just bloated me and made me even more of a sexual delinquent. I tried lowering my dose on my past cycle, and didnt see any negative effects

as you mentioned b4 that give you solid results.

its good to hear that will body proof it next cycle good idea inovations needed.
but keep in mind theorical that doesnt work btw i myself had prove theories sometimes dont work but are guidelines.

thats your first time on primo?

**number twelve** · 04-25-2011, 01:57 PM

Originally Posted by warren916

10mg dbol preworkout...is this a joke? I REALLY hope so.

not a joke my friend. have u tried it? I tried it at the end of my last cycle for a few workouts, I really responded. I have never used dbol before in the conventional way. Dont really want to at this point. I respond from 10 mg, so why go higher if i dont need to right now?

**number twelve** · 04-25-2011, 01:59 PM

Originally Posted by fabiog

as you mentioned b4 that give you solid results.

its good to hear that will body proof it next cycle good idea inovations needed.
but keep in mind theorical that doesnt work btw i myself had prove theories sometimes dont work but are guidelines.

thats your first time on primo?

hey bro, yeah this would be my first time using primo. the only injectables i have used are test e, prop, deca , and npp. every cycle I try something new to see how I respond and what i like.

**warren916** · 04-25-2011, 03:17 PM

Iv done 60mg prework, no difference in workouts from taking it at night/morning.

**number twelve** · 04-25-2011, 03:45 PM

so i guess the thing I would take away from your post is that I respond to 10 mg while u respond to 60. its interesting that you dont feel a difference between taking it prework (i assume u mean before you go to work in the morning) and training at night. due to dbols 4.5 hr half life, if you were to take 60 mg at around 9 am, by 8 pm when u work out you would have only 16 active mgs. it seems to me, it would be best to take about an hour before the gym. or if ur taking a higher dose, spread out every few hours. thanks for your post though

**number twelve** · 04-27-2011, 11:56 AM

bump for any more input from anyone!

**Booz** · 04-27-2011, 02:52 PM

gotta admit ive used d-bol at a low dose pre-workout and it has given mu great pumps in the gym that i do not or have not got without it

**number twelve** · 04-27-2011, 03:11 PM

booz any input on my cycle options

**Booz** · 04-27-2011, 04:19 PM

personally i dont like the primo ran with deca ...........

i dont really like primo,i have ran it at a gram and it didnt really do much for me at all,
its a very weak compound,
EQ also dont do much for me
personally if you want to get hard n lean i would just run some test tren and masteron but thats just me mate..............

**bjpennnn** · 04-27-2011, 04:26 PM

ding ding ding test tren and mast now thats a ****en cycle. You would not even have to go high on any of the doses. I would not run it for 15 weeks though. I would use test prop tren ace and mast prop and go 8-10 weeks max. Tren can be rough in the summer though especially if you live in place that gets very hot.

You can always keep it simple though mast and prop together is very solid and you can run it at low 100-150mg of each eod and get good results.

**dec11** · 04-27-2011, 04:30 PM

cant beat test prop and tren a for your goal, could fire in mast also. i did 350mg tren a, 350mg prop and 250mg test e this time last year and got big on it and b/f fell off me. was only 10wks with the tren discontinued at wk8

**number twelve** · 04-27-2011, 04:39 PM

i play rugby though, i need the cardio, and i dont think i am ready for tren /dont want to use it...yet.

looks like itll be prop/mast for about ten weeks or so! thanks fellas

if i get lean enough, i am gonna see what i look like with a shaved head. if i dont look too bad...i will take some time off from rugga and itll be time for tren lol

**PK-V** · 04-28-2011, 06:39 AM

Originally Posted by dukkitdalaw

As for helping with the hair... I do like Nizoral 2%.

But thinning hair isnt my problem, my receeding hairline is. lol

that stuff works well for acne too

**number twelve** · 04-28-2011, 06:41 AM

Originally Posted by PK-V

that stuff works well for acne too

im gonna check it out. does it mess with your hormones or potential gains? i was always confused about hair loss products

**PK-V** · 04-28-2011, 08:56 AM

just rub it locally on your acne (shoulders, back etc)
it works as a localized anti-androgen which can help with the DHT problems
thus why it's used for hair due to the high DHT turnover rate in the scalp