Cycle and PCT

[BoxerTricks07]

Hi guys

Running a cycle in the near future so would like some input on my pct plan

Cycle
wk 1-12 Test e 500mg pwk
wk 1-4 dbol 50mg ed

wk 14-18 20mg nolva ed
wk 14-18 50mg clomid ed (100mg 2 weeks 50mg 2 weeks)

I also want to run either nolva 20mg ed, letro or amirimidex 0.25mg ed during my cycle for bloat and gyno prevention what are peoples oppinions, considering I`m using 2 SERMS PC would it be better to go with an AI during my cycle hence the other suggestions?

Also when would you start taking the AI or SERM before my cycle starts at the start from first administration or from 24hrs after I have finished the dbol(wk4) and then carry it through onto PCT and run it untill the end with the other 2

I was thinking of running HGH before, during and after my cycle but seen as though I`m not planning on cycling on a regular basis I`m hoping on running a simple but effective cycle without complicating things too much

Any oppinions, info, recommendations appreciated

[BoxerTricks07]

Anyone?

[bjpennnn]

What are your stats?

[BoxerTricks07]

27
6ft
around 14st

[Blade15]

Bf%
Training Exp.?
Cycle history?

[testomax]

Hi guys

Running a cycle in the near future so would like some input on my pct plan

Cycle
wk 1-12 Test e 500mg pwk
wk 1-4 dbol 50mg ed

wk 14-18 20mg nolva ed
wk 14-18 50mg clomid ed (100mg 2 weeks 50mg 2 weeks)

I also want to run either nolva 20mg ed, letro or amirimidex 0.25mg ed during my cycle for bloat and gyno prevention what are peoples oppinions, considering I`m using 2 SERMS PC would it be better to go with an AI during my cycle hence the other suggestions?

Also when would you start taking the AI or SERM before my cycle starts at the start from first administration or from 24hrs after I have finished the dbol(wk4) and then carry it through onto PCT and run it untill the end with the other 2

I was thinking of running HGH before, during and after my cycle but seen as though I`m not planning on cycling on a regular basis I`m hoping on running a simple but effective cycle without complicating things too much

Any oppinions, info, recommendations appreciated

During cycle if concerned of bloating and gyno take nolva @ 20mg p/day for 3 - maybee 4 days per week for first 4 weeks whilst on test and dbol and decrease this to 1-max 3 days per week for remainer of cycle. Personally whilst taking the 500mg of test per week you will not need nolva unless gyno arises, youll possibly have minimal bloating but none too serious
1.I would begin nolva pct @ week 15 for 4 weeks. 2. hcg x twice weekly from week 12-15. 3. no need for clomid aswell. if concerned about pct just increase nolva to 40 mg per day for 4 weeks

hope this advice is usefull, good luck

[Windex]

During cycle if concerned of bloating and gyno take nolva @ 20mg p/day for 3 Or he could take something that could potentially be infinitely more effective, such as an AI, such as...Aromasin. - maybee 4 days per week for first 4 weeks whilst on test and dbol and decrease this to 1-max 3 days per week for remainer of cycle. Did these numbers come from Wikipedia? Personally whilst taking the 500mg of test per week you will not need nolva unless gyno arises, youll possibly have minimal bloating but none too serious Says who? Everyone's body reacts different.
1.I would begin nolva pct @ week 15 for 4 weeks. 2. hcg x twice weekly from week 12-15. So you're telling him to run HCG and a SERM for two weeks, kinda counterproductive? 3. no need for clomid aswell Justification?. if concerned about pct just increase nolva to 40 mg per day for 4 weeks

hope this advice is usefull, good luck

Please do not give any more advice.

[Windex]

Hi guys

Running a cycle in the near future so would like some input on my pct plan

Cycle
wk 1-12 Test e 500mg pwk
wk 1-4 dbol 50mg ed

wk 14-18 20mg nolva ed
wk 14-18 50mg clomid ed (100mg 2 weeks 50mg 2 weeks)

I also want to run either nolva 20mg ed, letro or amirimidex 0.25mg ed during my cycle for bloat and gyno prevention what are peoples oppinions, considering I`m using 2 SERMS PC would it be better to go with an AI during my cycle hence the other suggestions?

Also when would you start taking the AI or SERM before my cycle starts at the start from first administration or from 24hrs after I have finished the dbol(wk4) and then carry it through onto PCT and run it untill the end with the other 2

I was thinking of running HGH before, during and after my cycle but seen as though I`m not planning on cycling on a regular basis I`m hoping on running a simple but effective cycle without complicating things too much

Any oppinions, info, recommendations appreciated

HGH is very expensive, and preferential to more advanced users, and I don't think you would even need it unless you are going to compete. Secondly, if thi sis your first cycle, there is no reason to run DBOL. First cycles should ALWAYS have Testosterone alone so side effects can be optimally monitored.

[THE-DET-OAK]

HGH is very expensive, and preferential to more advanced users, and I don't think you would even need it unless you are going to compete. Secondly, if thi sis your first cycle, there is no reason to run DBOL. First cycles should ALWAYS have Testosterone alone so side effects can be optimally monitored.

with chinese making a ton of HGH it really is not that expensive anymore, whats your reasoning for HGH only being for advanced user's? have you used HGH?

[THE-DET-OAK]

I also want to run either nolva 20mg ed, letro or amirimidex 0.25mg ed during my cycle for bloat and gyno prevention what are peoples oppinions, considering I`m using 2 SERMS PC would it be better to go with an AI during my cycle hence the other suggestions?

you should go with an AI during your cycle, not for the reasons you mentioned though. A serm soes nothing for bloat, because it does not reduce estrogen.

Also when would you start taking the AI or SERM before my cycle starts at the start from first administration or from 24hrs after I have finished the dbol(wk4) and then carry it through onto PCT and run it untill the end with the other 2

you should start your AI at the very begining of your cycle, dbol aromatises as well.

I was thinking of running HGH before, during and after my cycle but seen as though I`m not planning on cycling on a regular basis I`m hoping on running a simple but effective cycle without complicating things too much

HGH is great, if you were to run it though you need to be 2 months into it before you start your cycle. it should be ran for at least 4-6 months. HGH would help your recovery too, since it helps stimulat T production. it would also help you keep your gains. Might want to try ghrh/ghrp before going to GH, you might like that almost as much as GH.

dbol is an awesome kickstart. IMO its ok on first cycle's cause you will know if your getting sides rather quickly, and they are handled the same ways as T sides. the negatives of dbol on a first cycle are: it shuts you down pretty hard compared to T, and some guys are dissapointed when they come off the dbol because you prolly wont make gains after that on just test, you will be just solidifying what you got on the dbol. You might even lose a lil weight when you come off the dbol.

[testomax]

Please do not give any more advice.

why?

[testomax]

Please do not give any more advice.

ok well i am not having a go at you cause i aint a keyboard warrior like yourself,i only argue with people face to face. Ill just tell you some facts.firstly this is from a successfull cycle which i done and im not saying there arent better alternatives. When my bloating got too pronounced i took the nolvadex as stated and i was successfull in bringing it back to normal, again im not saying theres not alternatives,im just saying this worked for me. Yes everyones body reacts differently and im not saying that they dont, again this is personal experience which worked for me. No im not sayng hcg and serm at same time i said when finished hcg then start nolva. When i said no clomid aswell i meant i did not run it and i had a successfull pct.

its easy to have a go off someone behind a keyboard bud, anybody can do that

[Tlee8769]

ok well i am not having a go at you cause i aint a keyboard warrior like yourself,i only argue with people face to face. Ill just tell you some facts.firstly this is from a successfull cycle which i done and im not saying there arent better alternatives. When my bloating got too pronounced i took the nolvadex as stated and i was successfull in bringing it back to normal, again im not saying theres not alternatives,im just saying this worked for me. Yes everyones body reacts differently and im not saying that they dont, again this is personal experience which worked for me. No im not sayng hcg and serm at same time i said when finished hcg then start nolva. When i said no clomid aswell i meant i did not run it and i had a successfull pct.

its easy to have a go off someone behind a keyboard bud, anybody can do that

Well first of all you give horrible advice and i have seen in earlier posts that you give an 18 y/o advice on how to cycle and how to PCT so people like you are not wanted or needed on a reputable site like this so stay away from any section involved with AAS stick to the diet section and read do not post anything cause your information is harmful to everybody that is given it. You are behind a keyboard giving information that is complete garbage.

[BoxerTricks07]

you should go with an AI during your cycle, not for the reasons you mentioned though. A serm soes nothing for bloat, because it does not reduce estrogen.

you should start your AI at the very begining of your cycle, dbol aromatises as well.




HGH is great, if you were to run it though you need to be 2 months into it before you start your cycle. it should be ran for at least 4-6 months. HGH would help your recovery too, since it helps stimulat T production. it would also help you keep your gains. Might want to try ghrh/ghrp before going to GH, you might like that almost as much as GH.

dbol is an awesome kickstart. IMO its ok on first cycle's cause you will know if your getting sides rather quickly, and they are handled the same ways as T sides. the negatives of dbol on a first cycle are: it shuts you down pretty hard compared to T, and some guys are dissapointed when they come off the dbol because you prolly wont make gains after that on just test, you will be just solidifying what you got on the dbol. You might even lose a lil weight when you come off the dbol.

Thanks for the advice, tbh I read alot of different oppinions about alot of compounds and I just want to make the cycle as simple as possible without over complicating things, trying to avoid resolving problems that might arise by using more compounds.

I`ve decided I`m going to get extra tamoxifen on hand incase of gyno or MAYBE some l-dex but I dont want to start running things unless needed just incase they effect gains, I might be one of the minority but I dont actually mind the aesthetic of bloat. Pct will definitely be tamoxifen and clomid.

I`m considering running HGH for 6 months just want to do alot more research on that before I make a decision

[BoxerTricks07]

you should go with an AI during your cycle, not for the reasons you mentioned though. A serm soes nothing for bloat, because it does not reduce estrogen.

I realise this I was referring to the AI`s, as mentioned above though I`m probabley just going to get a little more nolva on hand incase symptoms arise