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    demma1988 is offline New Member
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    Thumbs up Need help re cycle.

    Hey everyone,

    Im Adam.

    New here..

    From Melbourne, Victoria, Australia.

    Now, i would like to ask..

    I am starting my 2nd cycle:

    First cycle was 10 weeks
    Test Prop (1-10) Winny (6-10)
    However, my grandfather passes overseas & i really couldn't do a pct at all! It all just hit me at once..
    Now is that such a bad thing..
    When i look at my chest in the mirror im paranoid that i have gyno.. How do i get rid of that before i even start my 2nd cycle?
    (please dont call me an idiot, my grandfather passed and i was gone to another country for it)

    Now.
    With Cycle 2!

    I need help:

    I want to basically put on as much size as possible without the fat obviously..

    Decca, sus, test prop are the 3 im thinking, and i have to pick 2.

    Was asking if you could please choose 2 and explain why

    thankyou!

    appreciate it alot.

    god bless.

    demma.

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    What are your stats?

    Have you had blood work done to see if you have recovered from your last cycle?

    How long have you been training?

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    I'm 1.93cm.
    93kg.

    Okay so a blood test.
    Thanks.
    Any help re the other q's
    brother?

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    Training for a year flat stick.

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    age?

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    23 years old mate

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    post a pic and someone will tell you if its gyno. Cycling before you're 25 can cause all kinds of problems down the road as your bodies hormones haven't had a chance to completley stabalize naturally. Injecting might seem fun now but having to do it for the rest of your life so your dick will get hard will get old quick.

    I'm with marcus, get some bloodwork done. Make sure you've recovered. Then work for another 2 years naturally. you still have plenty of natural growth potential.

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    You need a few years of hard training under your belt before even considering taking any kind of anabolic support, people who jump on a cycle to soon without having some quality years under their belt usually results in injuries, it takes time to develop your connective tissue, tendons and nervous system to heavy overload training. Slowly getting your own system use to these kinds of extreme's will only help in muscle growth later on when you do decide to start taking AAS.

    Build a solid foundation for muscle tissue to grow and maintaining and development will be far greater than without it. Many younger guys will start cycling before they have reached their genetic potential which is crazy when a good solid diet and training program will be far beneficial and productive to muscle building.

    Workouts should be mainly focused on basic movements with a priority of over loading the muscle each and ever time you train, increasing your strength and ability to lift in proper form will help with building the foundation for future development


    DIET
    A lot of younger bodybuilders don't know how to eat. Researching and understanding how your own body responds will help you get to your natural limit, the right food at the right time and a full understanding of proteins,carbs, and fats will only help you succeed in achieving your natural goals. Keeping a diet diary will also help you understand the importance of macro, nutrients, calories and should help you see in which areas you could be going wrong in adding lean muscle tissue.

    No matter how much anabolic support you have it will be worthless without proper nutrition, food will help build and maintain your valued muscle weather its natural, cycling or in PCT. Adjusting your food intake and consuming muscle building foods coupled with a solid training program will help you achieve your natural limit and foundation before you start AAS use.

    This area is a huge problem with the younger guys and I can't express enough how important diet/food is when first starting out, post and pre training nutrition are very important and understanding how to load and feed the body will help push growth and create a very natural anabolic environment.

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    Have a look
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    ^ that cycle was Prop week1-10 & stanna 6-10

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    its hard to be sure from the pic but it def looks like minor gyno to me........I say minor but this has been going on for a while, it doesnt happen over-night

    BTW whats up with the wheels bro? you work out your legs?

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    wait a minute-in the pic on the left-is that both you? howd you get in the same pic with yourself? man its getting late, or im in the twilight zone...........................

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    what you mean whats up with my wheels?

    and nah that me & my best mate haha

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    and anyone else can help thanks

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    .. thanks

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