First Cycle, Gear Ordered

[Newbie100]

Hey Everyone,

First off, I have to say I sooo appreciate this site - so much great info.

So after about to months of research and contemplating and a short trip to Brazil I have decided to jump on a my first cycle.

It took a while to find some gear from a reputable source, but I think I have done well.

Here is what I am looking at:
Stats:
35yrs
245lbs
Experienced lifter 12+years (on and off)

I am going on Tren and Test.
It was recommended I start with 1CC of each Mondays and Thursdays. I will increase after 4 weeks to 1.5-2CC.

The Test Cyp is 250mg/ml
the Tren I think is 200mg/ml

My questions:
1. How long should I stay on? 8-12weeks?
2.Can I stay on both for the entire cycle?
3.When I am done, should I start Clomid or Novadex right away or after 1-2 weeks and how much? (I've read some good things about Proviron)
4. How long off and what would be good to follow up with?

Thanks in advance for all your help folks!

[pebble]

Drop the Tren. No need to use something that strong your first time around.

And with the questions you are asking, it does not seem like you have taken the time to do the research required to run a proper cycle.

[kawizx10]

bad... very very bad choice for your first cycle.......

and do you know what Tren you have Tren A or Tren E

[Bonaparte]

This is why 1 month of research is not nearly enough. Keep at it for a year and come back with a well thought out cycle.

[Newbie100]

Wow, thanks for the help guys!

[MACHINE5150]

1. How long should I stay on? 8-12weeks?
2.Can I stay on both for the entire cycle?
3.When I am done, should I start Clomid or Novadex right away or after 1-2 weeks and how much? (I've read some good things about Proviron)
4. How long off and what would be good to follow up with?


1. 10 weeks minimum if doing test enanthate and trenbelone enanthate
2. IF you decide to do the tren and test.. run the test 12 weeks and tren for only 10 weeks
3. nolvadex 40/40/20/20 clomid 100/100/50/50 (that is in mg perday broken down over 4 weeks)
4. time off = time on + pct so if you do 12 weeks, plus 2 week gap, plus 4 week PCT.. do not do another for 18 weeks after finished PCT

as stated above doing tren your first cycle is probably not a good idea.. it is the harshest of all compounds and there is no way of telling how you react until you do it.. also have an AI on hand in case you have too many estrogen related side effects..

good luck

[Newbie100]

1. How long should I stay on? 8-12weeks?
2.Can I stay on both for the entire cycle?
3.When I am done, should I start Clomid or Novadex right away or after 1-2 weeks and how much? (I've read some good things about Proviron)
4. How long off and what would be good to follow up with?


1. 10 weeks minimum if doing test enanthate and trenbelone enanthate
2. IF you decide to do the tren and test.. run the test 12 weeks and tren for only 10 weeks
3. nolvadex 40/40/20/20 clomid 100/100/50/50 (that is in mg perday broken down over 4 weeks)
4. time off = time on + pct so if you do 12 weeks, plus 2 week gap, plus 4 week PCT.. do not do another for 18 weeks after finished PCT

as stated above doing tren your first cycle is probably not a good idea.. it is the harshest of all compounds and there is no way of telling how you react until you do it.. also have an AI on hand in case you have too many estrogen related side effects..

good luck

Thanks, Machine.

The PCT...is that one or the other or both?
-and-
Should the Tren be run at the end or beginning?

BTW - it's Tren E

[pebble]

Thanks, Machine.

The PCT...is that one or the other or both?
-and-
Should the Tren be run at the end or beginning?

BTW - it's Tren E

Just don't do this cycle. Stop asking questions about it.

[scotty51312]

^^ yup. get yourself some more test, and just run 500mg a week for 10-12 weeks.

[Newbie100]

Okay, say I ran just the Test Cyp for 12 weeks.

How long after should I wait to do a second cycle and what would be good? Could I run a Tren and test cycle after that?

Also, do I still go
Week 1-12 Test
Week 13,14 Northing
Week 15, 16, 17, 18 Novadex 40/40/20/20?

Thanks guys.

[scotty51312]

Some people recover from just one SERM like nolva just fine. But better to run two just to be safe add clomid at 100/50/50/50

[RON]

Okay, say I ran just the Test Cyp for 12 weeks.

How long after should I wait to do a second cycle and what would be good? Could I run a Tren and test cycle after that?

Also, do I still go
Week 1-12 Test
Week 13,14 Northing
Week 15, 16, 17, 18 Novadex 40/40/20/20?

Thanks guys.

Right now for you I'd say time off = time on. So if you run a 12 week cycle take 12 weeks to recover. I like Clomid pct but thats me.

[Newbie100]

I have been hearing a lot about using an Ai. Is this mostly for Gyno? Could I not hit some Nova if I start to notice this happening?

[songdog]

How tall are you? Do more research.And you dont need 500mgs for your 1st cycle.

[Newbie100]

6'3"

The Test can get is 250mg/ml and I have read everywhere that it should be between 400 and 600 to start. I am thinking about kickstarting with 4 weeks of DBol as well.

[Windex]

What is your bodyfat percentage?