aspirating...essential?

**PowerliftWill** · 05-06-2011, 11:13 AM

Hey guys I just noticed I hardly ever aspirate unless I feel the poke into the muscle is pretty painful, which hints something might be wrong, so I aspirate. So other than the possibility of shooting into a vein, how bad is not aspirating in terms of gains? I've been seeing less than sub par gains so far and I wonder if it's because im not aspirating and the the oil is just enters my bloodstream and then exits. I've been using tren for ed injects and never had the cough so I don't think im getting it directly into my bloodstream and little to no blood upon removal of the needle. I sometimes also feel soreness in the muscle as well so i think im fine, but I just wanted to make sure.

**dec11** · 05-06-2011, 11:15 AM

you should aspirate every time

**PowerliftWill** · 05-06-2011, 11:16 AM

Originally Posted by dec11

you should aspirate every time

Going to start today.

**Eazy20** · 05-06-2011, 11:20 AM

Takes 2 seconds to do and prevents all kinds of unnecessary drama...I know 2 whole seconds feels like an eternity, but it really isn't, I promise you.

**Monster00101** · 05-06-2011, 11:43 AM

I'm new so don't take my advice to heart but I have heard if you inject directly into a vein you will know. I have heard it's pretty roughe. But that's just what I've read on the net. I have no experience with it.

**IRONMAN_84** · 05-06-2011, 11:49 AM

DUDE YOU NEED TO ASPIRATE , i pinned without injecting and didnt realize that i hadnt cleared the air out of the syringe so i just pulled out and was gonna switch the needle and start again, and blood shot out like a geyser, i didnt feel any pain, i aspirate every time and would have that time but i knew i was not going to inject so i didnt, i didnt expect their to be any blood because it didnt seem out of the ordinary.

**warren916** · 05-06-2011, 12:04 PM

Trust me, if you hit a vein the second you start to inject you will know.

Pretty much any substance that goes into your veins you will feel instantly.

**PowerliftWill** · 05-06-2011, 12:10 PM

Originally Posted by warren916

Trust me, if you hit a vein the second you start to inject you will know.

Pretty much any substance that goes into your veins you will feel instantly.

Thought so, because i've never even come close to feeling anything. i do need to aspirate though just to be sure.

**poppz** · 05-06-2011, 12:20 PM

So if one aspirates and draws blood should he discard gear?

**Eazy20** · 05-06-2011, 01:24 PM

Originally Posted by poppz

So if one aspirates and draws blood should he discard gear?

No, get as much of the blood out as you can without wasting gear, change needle, and try again

**MBMETC** · 05-06-2011, 01:27 PM

Originally Posted by Eazy20

No, get as much of the blood out as you can without wasting gear, change needle, and try again

its your blood why waste the gear.

**Eazy20** · 05-06-2011, 01:32 PM

Originally Posted by MBMETC

its your blood why waste the gear.

I said without wasting gear...I just try and get as much of it out as I can...My RBC count is already through the roof when on cycle, so I dont need to be re-injecting blood not to mention the thought of it kind of creeps me out haha.

**Edit** Btw nice bike. I have a '05 R1 myself.

**MBMETC** · 05-06-2011, 01:34 PM

i actually ment to quote poppz sorry i wasnt looking to start another dec11/ the det oak fued....lol

**MR10X** · 05-06-2011, 02:53 PM

been injecting since 1980 and i never asperate,and recently i have been leaving a little air bubble in the end of the syringe to get all the stuff (mostly HGH,HCG .melanotan 2) and other lower dose injectables. Just because you get blood out of the site doesnt mean you hit a vein at the end of the needle,it could be half way in and you will get blood out of the site....

**Ashop** · 05-06-2011, 02:55 PM

Originally Posted by dec11

you should aspirate every time

I agree,,its a good idea.

**X83** · 05-06-2011, 03:38 PM

If you're using 25g 1-1/2 needles with real thick oil aspirating can be quite difficult, especially if you're injecting your own glutes. I've been resting my syringe up against the bathroom counter top while looking in the mirror and it makes it a little easier. Also heating up the oil reduces the viscosity and injecting the solution very slowly keeps the pain to a minimum.

Has anyone ever injected their gear into a vein and lived to tell about it? I'd be curious to know what it would feel like if this should actually occur and what would be the first symptoms.

**PowerliftWill** · 05-06-2011, 04:02 PM

Originally Posted by X83

If you're using 25g 1-1/2 needles with real thick oil aspirating can be quite difficult, especially if you're injecting your own glutes. I've been resting my syringe up against the bathroom counter top while looking in the mirror and it makes it a little easier. Also heating up the oil reduces the viscosity and injecting the solution very slowly keeps the pain to a minimum.

Has anyone ever injected their gear into a vein and lived to tell about it? I'd be curious to know what it would feel like if this should actually occur and what would be the first symptoms.

I don't see where people get inject pain from? Granted im shooting test e and tren ace...but pinning ace ed is sooooo freakin easy. I look forward to it.

Anyways guys check out my diet thread in the diet section and post up on it. I need people to critique it but no one looks in that section compared to this one. How ironic!!!

**Bonaparte** · 05-06-2011, 04:10 PM

Aspirating has nothing to do with gains.
It is intended to prevent a possible oil embollism (where oil coats your lungs and causes severe coughing, nausea, and a bunch of other accute issues).
Look at a diagram of the human circulatory system and you'll see why injecting oil into a vein is an issue.

**PowerliftWill** · 05-06-2011, 04:13 PM

Originally Posted by Bonaparte

Aspirating has nothing to do with gains.
It is intended to prevent a possible oil embollism (where oil coats your lungs and causes severe coughing, nausea, and a bunch of other accute issues).
Look at a diagram of the human circulatory system and you'll see why injecting oil into a vein is an issue.

Obviously injected into a vein would be. I was just asking if not aspirating would effect gains, just in case you were injecting into a vein. I didn't know the symptoms before this thread was started. Now obviously I know i've never come close to hitting one.

**Bonaparte** · 05-06-2011, 04:45 PM

Originally Posted by PowerliftWill

Obviously injected into a vein would be. I was just asking if not aspirating would effect gains, just in case you were injecting into a vein. I didn't know the symptoms before this thread was started. Now obviously I know i've never come close to hitting one.

No. It's all going to end up in your bloodstream eventually.