oral on a first cycle

**gthom47** · 05-10-2011, 08:12 AM

i have seen through reading threads here that it is advised to just do test as a first cycle to see how you react to that by itself. in doing other research on AAS i have come across a lot of places and people saying use d-bol even as a novice to kick start the cycle. why is it so strongly advised to leave orals out of a first cycle, and are there any real harms in including a strong oral like d-bol or t-bol in your first cycle?

**lovbyts** · 05-10-2011, 08:30 AM

The main reason is if/when you get sides you wont know what it's from, the test or dbol . Do you think you are really ready?
Stats?

**marcus300** · 05-10-2011, 08:42 AM

What are your stats?

**gthom47** · 05-10-2011, 10:55 AM

well im waiting a while until i start my cycle but as of now my stats are as follow:
age: 27
height: 5' 7"
weight: 170 (as of today), been doing a slow clean bulk at 300-500 cal over maintenance for a few weeks, started at 166
training history: seriously lifting for 3 years and 11 months
cycle history: did a cycle of just var10 at 70mg a day for 8 weeks last year to help with a cut.
current workout: doing a 5/3/1 routine

im not planning on doing my first test cycle for a while and i need to meet a minimum cost to order from my source so i was going to get test e, dbol , and clomid to hit that mark. i already have an AI and nolva on hand.