test e and tren e cycle???

**spiromik** · 05-05-2011, 06:01 AM

hey guys its been awhile since iv posted on this forum, well im back n hope to keep on posting..

age 24 yrs
100kg about 15% (started at 58kg been training for about 5-6 years hard)
height 6 foot
diet is in check
1 previous complete cycle

im considering a test e and tren e cycle

i think of running it something like this

wk1-12 test e 750mg ( or should i run 500mg due to tren being high androgeni?c)
wk1-10 tren e 400mg
wk1-14 hcg 250IU 2-3 per week ( is this really needed?)
wk14-18 days after last test e shot start my pct
nolvadex 40/40/20/20

i was even cosidering frontloading the test??? should i cut back to to test wks 1-10 and tren 1-8????
ur input would b greatly appreciated...
if i didnt frontload?? could i take dbol for the first 4 weeks???

also could i run 200mg of deca aswell from wks 1-10 cause its good for the joints.?

is (caber or bromo) a necessity whilst on tren iv read from numerous sources that it isnt needed for such a small dose of tren??

thanks

**Ernst** · 05-05-2011, 06:14 AM

That's a pretty big second cycle, and a pretty lame pct. 400mg/wk tren e is not "such a small dose" either.

**dirtyluke1** · 05-05-2011, 08:41 AM

being your 2nd cycle theres no need to go so high 500mg/week of test is lots if you eat right drop the tren to 300/week and you will grow like a weed and get lean at the same time .........as long as u eat right

**marcus300** · 05-05-2011, 08:55 AM

No need for tren at any dose on your 2nd cycle, stick with test only or add another compound but i'd reconsider your approach with tren.

PCT- needs alot of work and start 14 days after your last test e injection,

HCG - will maintain tesicular size and function during the cycle,

**spiromik** · 05-10-2011, 05:00 AM

so wat pct would u reccomend for this cycle??

**Ernst** · 05-10-2011, 05:06 AM

Seeing as the cycle itself was not recommended.... nothing? That cycle was considered too much too soon. Why don't you try proposing a new cycle and pct plan for review?

**lovbyts** · 05-10-2011, 05:15 AM

Originally Posted by spiromik

so wat pct would u reccomend for this cycle??

I'm guessing you didnt stick around long last time because you didnt want to listen to any of the advice that was given then, same as now?

Drop the tren . Cut the Test back to 500mg and since you have been here before you should know how to use the search to find a proper PCT and know we usually dont spoon feed people especially ones who tend to not take any of the advice that is given them and keep asking for someone to agree with their bad choices.

Start reading here to find you PCT for TEST E only cycle or a Test E + dbol kick & winny or Test E & ??? No Tren, No Deca , not yet.