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    Exclamation First cycle feeling unwell on dianabol testosterone cypionate and test blend 400

    new to this forum.
    been bodybuilding for 8 years naturally and decided to move over to the dark side.

    im taking 50mg dianabol per day for 8 weeks, 750mg of test cypionate per week for 10 weeks, 30mg winny per day and 400mg of test blend 400 for 10 weeks.

    im 2 weeks in and im getting sweets and feeling sick??

    i eat 8 clean meals a day, cadio 40 mins every morning and weight train 5 times a week. i take 1 day off and start all over again.

    i get my stuff from a guy i have known for years at the gym he told me this cycle for great results??
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    surely this is not what your doling for a 1st cycle?

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    yeah why?

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    Overkill for your first cycle. With all these compounds in your body you don't know what's causing the sides. Stick with test c only. Wait for the vets to chime in a better guide you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by munsun86 View Post
    yeah why?
    dbol and winny at the same time could elevate liver enzymes, which can cause some ill feelings. Dbol & Winny together are a contradiction to begin with. By the way i read you are at 750 test and another 400 of belnd. Way too much for 1st cycle. Winny is terrible for joints and in all honestly should be used as a pre competition drug and not ran at random. 50mg of Dbol is too much for a 1st cycle as I'm nearly 290 and still get by with 30mg daily. And 40 min of cardio ED is over kill.
    Unless you want to hurt yourself, you need to study up some.
    Good Luck

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    Way to many compounds for your first cycle. Stick with just test and drop it down to like 500 a week. If your taking this high a dosage for ur first cycle can you imagine what you will have to take in your 5th.? Good luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelevra View Post
    dbol and winny at the same time could elevate liver enzymes, which can cause some ill feelings. Dbol & Winny together are a contradiction to begin with. By the way i read you are at 750 test and another 400 of belnd. Way too much for 1st cycle. Winny is terrible for joints and in all honestly should be used as a pre competition drug and not ran at random. 50mg of Dbol is too much for a 1st cycle as I'm nearly 290 and still get by with 30mg daily. And 40 min of cardio ED is over kill.
    Unless you want to hurt yourself, you need to study up some.
    Good Luck
    thanks for the advice

    first would it be better to drop the winny and do 40mg dbol and may 250mg test and 400 belend?/

    also i have do 45min cadio ed with only one day off for the last 8 years. what would you say 30mins a day first thing on a empty stomach?

    should i be doing everything the same as my natural bodybuilding except taking the steroids and cadio?

    sorry for been a bit stupid but you dont want to ask at the gym and sound like a nerd.

    thank god i found this site or god knows what would have happened

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    i would do 400mgs of test e, no blend
    maybe dbol up front at 30-40mgs a week, for 4 weeks

    thats it

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5x10 View Post
    i would do 400mgs of test e, no blend
    maybe dbol up front at 30-40mgs a week, for 4 weeks

    thats it
    thanks do you mind me asking why no blend i was told it the best and i paid out the ass for it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by munsun86 View Post
    thanks for the advice

    first would it be better to drop the winny and do 40mg dbol and may 250mg test and 400 belend?/

    also i have do 45min cadio ed with only one day off for the last 8 years. what would you say 30mins a day first thing on a empty stomach?

    should i be doing everything the same as my natural bodybuilding except taking the steroids and cadio?

    sorry for been a bit stupid but you dont want to ask at the gym and sound like a nerd.

    thank god i found this site or god knows what would have happened


    Welcome to the fourm.
    Most guys will recomend using only one form of test for your first cycle. This way you can see how your body reacts to the AAS. Starting off with several compounds can get you into this exact situation. Your dealing with sides and have know idea whats causing it.

    I would recomend droping everything except the test c. Run that at 400-600mg per week for 12 weeks, I perfer the longer cycles.

    Do you have your PCT planned out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by munsun86 View Post
    thanks do you mind me asking why no blend i was told it the best and i paid out the ass for it?
    well, thats a good question
    i guess i should ask what its a blend of

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5x10 View Post
    well, thats a good question
    i guess i should ask what its a blend of
    the bottle says Each ml Contains :

    Boldenone Undeclynate 200mg

    Testosterone Cypionate 200mg

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    Blends are different compounds. Run one compound for the first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gymfu View Post
    Welcome to the fourm.
    Most guys will recomend using only one form of test for your first cycle. This way you can see how your body reacts to the AAS. Starting off with several compounds can get you into this exact situation. Your dealing with sides and have know idea whats causing it.

    I would recomend droping everything except the test c. Run that at 400-600mg per week for 12 weeks, I perfer the longer cycles.

    Do you have your PCT planned out?
    would 400-600mg see good results as i cant go much further naturally?

    i have 50 50mg clomid was going to take 2pd for 2 weeks total 14

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    Quote Originally Posted by munsun86 View Post
    would 400-600mg see good results as i cant go much further naturally?

    i have 50 50mg clomid was going to take 2pd for 2 weeks total 14
    Yes that is enough to see results as long as your diet is good. Not a good plan for PCT, look into adding nolvadex and hcg .

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    then do the blend alone, 2 ccs a week

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    As everyone said, one compound. I kinda sounds like you have test flu. Sometimes you'll feel under the weather for a 5-7 days when starting a cycle.

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    wow, for your first cycle that is insane. You body, which has never seen AAS before is basically overwhelmed with all these compounds swimming through it. Surprised you haven't got test flu yet either.

    I would down it to 400mg of the test e and maybe 20mg of the D-bol a day if you want to add the D-bol for an anabolic . Maybe reduce your cardio to 4 days a week. I don't see a problem with that if you eating correctly.

    You also have to remember that some guys that are your source in many cases have no clue really, and only want you to buy more, get bigger, so they can sell you more.
    Last edited by Natureboy71; 05-14-2011 at 09:41 AM.

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    That's 3-4 times more gear than you should be using. Drop everything but 400mg of test.

    BTW, your buddy is a greedy asshole for setting you up withg that cycle.

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    just to give you some perspective here, Im 6'2" 310lbs and 17% bf. I've been using for 10 years and have never used as much in one cycle as you are for your first cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonaparte View Post
    That's 3-4 times more gear than you should be using. Drop everything but 400mg of test.

    BTW, your buddy is a greedy asshole for setting you up withg that cycle.
    just got back from the gym and the guy has had the winny back and the blend so cant be bad. he said he does way more than than with insulin and Synthol as well, some times hundred plus shots a week? he said maybe it was a bit much for a fist time, but that i said i waited to get massive and have been bodybuilding a long time so...........

    anyway im going with 30mg dbol and 500mg test nothing else.

    thanks for all the advice you lot are life savers!!!

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    ^^^good choice! you'll get fantastic results!

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    yep^^^^^^

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    What about your PCT?

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    Its refreshing to see someone post and ask for help and then actually listen to the help they get.. Good luck op

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    Quote Originally Posted by DGK View Post
    Its refreshing to see someone post and ask for help and then actually listen to the help they get.. Good luck op
    Yea but we still need to work on that PCT.

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    I call Troll. Surprised you guys don't see it

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    Quote Originally Posted by grumpee View Post
    I call Troll. Surprised you guys don't see it
    Trolling involves shocking or pissing people off...which the OP hasn't done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gymfu View Post
    Yea but we still need to work on that PCT.
    was thinking tomorrow - 100mg
    Following 10 days - 60mg
    Following 10 days - 40mg

    day after 100mg clomid for 14days

    once again i no nothing really, but spent alot of time doing research last night and this is what a came up with?

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    Quote Originally Posted by grumpee View Post
    I call Troll. Surprised you guys don't see it
    100% what is meant by troll? if your saying im a lier and im not going to listen to the advice i got, then why would i even post on here in the first place?

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    Quote Originally Posted by munsun86 View Post
    was thinking tomorrow - 100mg
    Following 10 days - 60mg
    Following 10 days - 40mg

    day after 100mg clomid for 14days


    once again i no nothing really, but spent alot of time doing research last night and this is what a came up with?
    You dont start your pct until like 2 weeks after your last injection. So im confused as to what you say about starting pct tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DGK View Post
    You dont start your pct until like 2 weeks after your last injection. So im confused as to what you say about starting pct tomorrow.
    was going to do novadex starting tomorrow because of all the extra gear i have done?

    and at the end of the cycle start clomid??

    advice please??

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    idk i would just take an ai on cycle then begin pct like u should after. head over to the pct forum look for a thread by swifto about pct.. ask him there

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    Pct (post cycle therapy )...
    I would recoment getting some hcg and running it 250ius two to three times per wk, this will keep your natty test from shutting down which will make it alot easier for u to come back after u are done with the cycle
    I wouldnt run nolva throughout your cycle unless you are haveing sides of gyno
    Two wks after your last injection if you are running test e i would start nolva and clomid
    nolva 20mg pd 4 wks
    clomid 150 first day 100/ 50 the rest of the way through

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    Quote Originally Posted by munsun86 View Post
    100% what is meant by troll? if your saying im a lier and im not going to listen to the advice i got, then why would i even post on here in the first place?
    He was saying that you were just making this up to get a rise out of people...which clearly isn't true.

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