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    Question Beta Blockers on cycle?

    i take beta blockers when i referee, but ive never taken them on cycle before. i just started my cycle 5 days ago. running 70mg Var ED and 50mg Proviron ED. will the beta blockers **** with my cycle or am i just over thinking this?

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    Why do you take beta blockers?

    I wouldn't unless needed, simply because they kill athletic performance. If you limit your heartrate, you lower your ability to do work. Try to push it too hard in they gym and you'll end up gassing and possibly even passing out, since your heart will not be able to supply adequate blood (oxygen) to your tissues and brain. They work like a rev limiter on a car.

    Edit: a better car analogy would be a restrictive (smaller) air intake. lol
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    If you dont mind my asking why are you Beta blockers? If you are having cardia issues probally i would not advise going on gear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by djmikecollins View Post
    If you dont mind my asking why are you Beta blockers? If you are having cardia issues probally i would not advise going on gear.
    i take them when i referee BJJ. when i get out there and theres thousands of people yelling at me i get a little anxious and my mind goes blank sometimes and i mess up on some calls. not a lot, but even just a few times a tournament is too much for me. cuz i know how it feels to lose a match cuz of a bad call. but ive never taken them on cycle and dont know if they will mess with my cycle

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonaparte View Post
    Why do you take beta blockers?

    I wouldn't unless needed, simply because they kill athletic performance. If you limit your heartrate, you lower your ability to do work. Try to push it too hard in they gym and you'll end up gassing andf possibly even passing out, since your heart will not be able to supply adequate blood (oxygen) to your tissues and brain. They work like a rev limiter on a car.
    thanks for the input. cuz i was concidering using them for when i compete too since my main problem is performance anxiety. once i get out on the mat in front of all those people my mind shuts down. but i guess im just gunna have to get over it the old fashion way

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    Im currently on a beta blocker for high bp. Great drug, increase nitric oxide in the blood, whilst also dilating them.

    Lowers bp, and can relieve anxiety.

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    Yeah I think its just fine. Many people take these for BP control without issues.

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    Nothing wrong with beta blockers..don't know went people need to know why your taking them..i can't answer your question because I don't know..but it sounds like you will be fine

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    Quote Originally Posted by warren916 View Post
    Im currently on a beta blocker for high bp. Great drug, increase nitric oxide in the blood, whilst also dilating them.

    Lowers bp, and can relieve anxiety.
    which one are you taking?

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    Quote Originally Posted by warren916 View Post
    Im currently on a beta blocker for high bp. Great drug, increase nitric oxide in the blood, whilst also dilating them.
    Lowers bp, and can relieve anxiety.
    Pretty sure beta blockers don't do that...but PDE5 inhibitors do (Viagra, Cialis, etc)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonaparte View Post
    Pretty sure beta blockers don't do that...but PDE5 inhibitors do (Viagra, Cialis, etc)

    Third genration beta blockers do increase NO and result in vasodialation.
    Also there are a couple that are b and a1 antagonists - these do result in vaosdialation as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmyinkedup View Post
    Third genration beta blockers do increase NO and result in vasodialation.
    Also there are a couple that are b and a1 antagonists - these do result in vaosdialation as well.
    Good stuff. I can see how B1 inhibition would relax blood vessels, since B1 receptors are responsible for vasoconstriction.
    Through what mechanism do they increase NO?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonaparte View Post
    Good stuff. I can see how B1 inhibition would relax blood vessels, since B1 receptors are responsible for vasoconstriction.
    Through what mechanism do they increase NO?
    2 fold IIRC -
    1-rise in calcium independant NO synthase
    2-NO liberation from endothelial cells as a result of stimulation of p2y purinoceptor

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bullseye Forever View Post
    which one are you taking?
    I was taking bystolic, i forgot i stopped taking it, taking low dose of hydrochlorothizide (diuretic) for bp now.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nebivolol

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