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questions guys,in a cycle of these compunds,test cyp 750mg/week and deca 400mg/week will the deca have a chance to help with gains,or would the test overdo the deca with gains,and if the test dose is lowered,would the deca outshine the test in gains?just curious
going to need those stats bro and a little more clarity on what you are asking. Nothing overpowers the other in a cycle... but depending on your previous cycling, Im guessing you are running far more test than you need to
6'5Quote:
Originally Posted by Knockout_Power
270
17% bf
trt dose 300mg/week for the last 3 years
previous cycles
1st cycle test cyp 500mg/week
2nd cycle test cyp 600mg/week
on my 2nd cycle i didnt get the gains i was expecting,hence by trt dose being so high,before i started taking it at 300mg/week,i was pinning 600mg/10days for 2 years....thats why i was thinking of uping the test dose a bit more,maybe too much.......i was tol to lower my test dose to around 600mg and up the deca to 500mg and let the deca do its work,my body is so used to those higher doses of test from trt,thats the reasoning for the question,ive never used deca before,and i was wanting to know would each compound both help with gains
6'5Quote:
Originally Posted by Knockout_Power
270
17% bf
trt dose 300mg/week for the last 3 years
previous cycles
1st cycle test cyp 500mg/week
2nd cycle test cyp 600mg/week
on my 2nd cycle i didnt get the gains i was expecting,hence by trt dose being so high,before i started taking it at 300mg/week,i was pinning 600mg/10days for 2 years....thats why i was thinking of uping the test dose a bit more,maybe too much.......i was tol to lower my test dose to around 600mg and up the deca to 500mg and let the deca do its work,my body is so used to those higher doses of test from trt,thats the reasoning for the question,ive never used deca before,and i was wanting to know would each compound both help with gains
you're a big fvcker!!!... first off, lower the TRT dose next time around (175-200)... will only make your 4th cycle easier on you... so yah, going from trt of 300 to on cycle @ 600 would be like running a 1st time cycle with under 400/wk... some gains, but nothing specialQuote:
Originally Posted by Bullseye Forever
I do things a little different. I never go high on the test. I use the test to keep myself functioning like a man and let the other compounds do the work. Using small test doses has let me make great gains on light cycles. My best cycle so far was 250 test with 350 Tren...
Last time around I saw the most gains ever from a simple
600 test
450 npp
450 Tren...
If I were you, I would see how I reacted to 5-600 test and up that deca to 600... keep in mind that deca will take 5-6 weeks before you start seeing its mass gains
agree with thatQuote:
Originally Posted by Knockout_Power
i feel a ton stronger off of deca/test at 200mgs a week than i do off of 400mgs of test
imo, test is a little overrated when compared to the 19 nors
and im just trying dbol out for the first time now, see how it stacks up with/against test
the test doesn't cancel out the deca. my last cycle was 500mg wk sust and 400mg wk deca and i made good gains. I've also done like mentioned earlier and did it the other way test 300mg week and deca 700mg wk and the results seemed about the same. i however can not factor in trt. ps its good to see someone posting who isn't 220lbs and under!
yea i know about the deca taking a while to work,the only reason i was asking about the dose of deca,is that ive never used it before and i dont know what kind of sides i would expect to have,what about 600mg test/week and 500mg deca/week dbol 50mg ed/6weeks? and in the mean time i wil lower my dose of trt to 200mg/week so the test will work betterQuote:
Originally Posted by Knockout_Power
yea me too,this is my first time using dbol myself,and i cant wait,i was going to run 30mg ed/6/weeks but a friend of mine who is a powerlifter said i was big enough to handle50-60mg ed 6 weeksQuote:
Originally Posted by 5x10
lol..yea i am a bigger guy lol,i want to be 290+ lol......did you have any sides with deca at 700mg/week?Quote:
Originally Posted by buffgator
how far into this cycle are you? dbol isnt really a mass builder... it gives you strength gains and most of the weight is water. If you are already more than 2 weeks in, dont bother with dbol... just run this cycle out as is and then start over agian with lower trt and a good cycle like what you proposed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bullseye Forever
no i don't recall ever having sides with deca....that's just me though. i think what you proposed above is perfect. you'll hit 290 with that. ps ill trade you 20lbs for a few inches Im 310 but only 6'2"
i disagree. its not to late to start d-bol 2 weeks in and i love it as a mass builder.
oh i hadnt started it yet,im going to start it in august,cause im rehabing my shoulder after surgery back in jan,im trying to get everything set before i beginQuote:
Originally Posted by Knockout_Power
ok deal lol.....did you take a prolactin inhibitir like prami or caber for deca sides?i was told toQuote:
Originally Posted by buffgator
i cant wait to start it.....im trying to get everything in order and doses figured out before i startQuote:
Originally Posted by buffgator
my mistake... thought you meant "Im in a cycle" when you were just asking about the cycle.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bullseye Forever
If you have not started yet then you can solve this with the right timeframe. If you lowered your trt now and give it 2 months at that level before cycling, 600/wk test may be all you need. match that with 5-600 deca (I would say NPP instead, to avoid common sides) and use the dbol as a kicker and you got yourself a nice stack
well ive already got all of my gear,test,deca and dbol.....i am like,i want everything in order doses and everything before i start,that way im ready and i wont have any concerns or questions and im planned out when i start,you've been very helpful man,thanks!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Knockout_Power
good man... Ive had to cover so many of my friends cause they only order half their gear, or whatever they can afford to rush into a cycle and then their source cant come through after the run out in 3-4 weeks.
i understand,a few of my friends want some of my stuff,i told them to get there own lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Knockout_Power
ha i already have everything on hand to get me through the year of this current cycle and one more
Yeah its good to have what you need on hand before you start and to have a reliable source with a good supply. I love my source, Walgreens. LOL
I agree, if you are going to use something besides Test then keep the test to a minimum so you know what is causing the gains or side effects so you know how your body will react to each compound.
Deca gave me Back acne, sweating a lot, oily skin, lots of night sweats.
im just now trying dbol for the last 4 weeks of the cycle(30mg ed)
my gains seemed to have plateuad so i figured why not as i havent tried dbol and i only cycle one every 4-5 yrs
op how are you liking the dbol?
with the use of Aromasin like im going to use,will that help with the water retention from dbol use?