which oral for lean bulk kick start?

**stickyfingers** · 05-16-2011, 06:19 PM

i will be starting a test D + tren E cycle in a few months for 16 weeks. before i start the cycle im going to cut down to about 10%bf. i want to stay as lean as i can during the cycle and add LBM. any recommendations on which orals to use until the test+tren kick in?
ive previously used dbol and had crazy water retention

stats
2 cycles previous
215lbs 13-15% bf

**MBMETC** · 05-16-2011, 06:21 PM

T-bol

**Bonaparte** · 05-16-2011, 06:37 PM

Tbol or Anavar .

**stickyfingers** · 05-16-2011, 07:02 PM

tbol at 80mg for 4 weeks a good dosage?
also how are the strength gains from tbol compared to dbol ?

**THE-DET-OAK** · 05-16-2011, 07:04 PM

tbol sux, and honestly i think its a waste of money. i dont bloat on dbol when i use an AI. strength is phenomenal on dbol too.

**stickyfingers** · 05-16-2011, 07:20 PM

i wish i was the same, i ran adex from the first day i started dbol and i still bloated up badly, i dropped a good 10lbs of weight in less than a week after i stopped the dbol

***D7M*** · 05-16-2011, 07:43 PM

Originally Posted by Bonaparte

Tbol or Anavar.

Agreed as usual.

**Ashop** · 05-16-2011, 07:48 PM

Originally Posted by Bonaparte

Tbol or Anavar.

Those would be good choices,,,possibly even some WINSTROL .

**M302_Imola** · 05-17-2011, 05:47 AM

Originally Posted by stickyfingers

tbol at 80mg for 4 weeks a good dosage?
also how are the strength gains from tbol compared to dbol?

Tbol at 80mg for 5-6 weeks would be a great kickstart to a lean bulker. You might start at 60mg the 1st week as some experience sides from 80mg or above. I myself are like you and bloat on dbol even when using and AI. I just ran tbol and have no complaints and got some nice results. Give it a go!