Hcg?

**mikail** · 05-17-2011, 09:45 PM

I'm sorry guys, i really didn't wanna post this here - but for some reason i don't have the privileges to post in the pictures section.
I wanted HCG from a trusted source - but im still not 100% sure.
it came in a vile and apparantly i have to buy and add some electrolyte water or something(im going to find out exactly what it is tomarrow) and leave it in the fridge for a day or so, then ill be able to use it.

The vile came with no liquid, just a couple white rocks (looks like coke haha)

any opinions?

Click image for larger version.

Name: pic2.jpg
Views: 233
Size: 149.4 KB
ID: 115585

Click image for larger version.

Name: pic1.jpg
Views: 237
Size: 141.2 KB
ID: 115584

**Bonaparte** · 05-17-2011, 10:07 PM

How old are you?
Stats?

**38jumper38** · 05-18-2011, 08:14 PM

So what you doing with HCG at Age 22?

**Lemonada8** · 05-18-2011, 08:56 PM

Once u mix it wit the bacteriostatic water, put some on a Prego test. If its positive, then its HCG . If its false then its not HCG>

**Bonaparte** · 05-18-2011, 09:15 PM

Originally Posted by Lemonada8

Once u mix it wit the bacteriostatic water, put some on a Prego test. If its positive, then its HCG. If its false then its not HCG>

There is nothing cheaper than HCG , so I really doubt anyone would fake it.
Testing it would waste a good chunk of it.

**Lemonada8** · 05-18-2011, 09:33 PM

^^ its what the OP asked...

**M302_Imola** · 05-19-2011, 05:48 AM

Originally Posted by Lemonada8

Once u mix it wit the bacteriostatic water, put some on a Prego test. If its positive, then its HCG. If its false then its not HCG>

interesting...makes since though

**mikail** · 05-21-2011, 09:40 AM

Originally Posted by Bonaparte

How old are you?
Stats?

I'm 22, 6'3 250lbs, roughly 15%-18% bf. Been working out for several years

**mikail** · 05-21-2011, 09:44 AM

Originally Posted by 38jumper38

So what you doing with HCG at Age 22?

I'm finishing up my first cycle of teste this sunday - dbol to kickstart for the first 5 weeks. I'm gonna be using HCG and nolva for PCT before I start my next cycle in 4 weeks. Next cycle will consist of testp, winny and clen .

**Lemonada8** · 05-21-2011, 09:49 AM

thats not enough time off... time on plus PCT = time off..

accordig to above, 2 weeks after last pct shot and 4 weeks of pct, you will be ending pct and ur 2nd cycle will be starting

**38jumper38** · 05-21-2011, 10:35 AM

HCG is used during cycle NOT at PCT

**mikail** · 05-21-2011, 10:36 AM

Originally Posted by Lemonada8

thats not enough time off... time on plus PCT = time off..

accordig to above, 2 weeks after last pct shot and 4 weeks of pct, you will be ending pct and ur 2nd cycle will be starting

I know I should be taking more time off, but due to time restrictions, I can't afford to lose any more time off.
My goal is to cut down to about 4 or 5% bf by august.

**Sc0rch** · 05-21-2011, 11:17 AM

Originally Posted by 38jumper38

HCG is used during cycle NOT at PCT

Wrong. Very wrong.

**Hexagon** · 05-21-2011, 11:36 AM

Originally Posted by 38jumper38

HCG is used during cycle NOT at PCT

HCG can be used during cycles or as a part of PCT (not both)

During cycles is of cause best

**Lemonada8** · 05-21-2011, 11:39 AM

how r u running the HCG ?

**Dr Pepper** · 05-21-2011, 11:47 AM

Originally Posted by Sc0rch

Wrong. Very wrong.

Agreed! Read steroid .com's PCT protocol

**Hexagon** · 05-21-2011, 12:05 PM

In short the function of hcg in a cycle is to keep your ledydig cells active (preventing them from shutting down). This will give you a faster (and better) recovery.

@Dr Pepper. Which pct protocol? The one who recommends proviron in PCT??? Proviron which actually causes testosterone suppression?? The one that suggest the use of AI in pct?? AI causes estrogen rebound effect when discontinued. When HCG is used during a cycle it should not be used in PCT. If used in PCT and not in cylce it should not be ran for more than 3 weeks. HCG will suppress testosterone and hamper recovery.

Why we use nolvadex and clomid in PCT:
Testosterone works on a negative feedback loop.

Nolvadex and clomid works by blocking estrogen at the pituitary. The pituitary sees less estrogen, and makes more LH. More LH means that the Leydig cells in the testis make more testosterone. This is why you want your leydig cells ready for action at the end of the cycle and you use HCG during your cycle.

**Lemonada8** · 05-21-2011, 12:14 PM

^dr pepper sounds like someone who has done all his reading here

lol nice edit. However Nolvadex has no action at the pituatary gland. only clomid does

**Dr Pepper** · 05-21-2011, 12:45 PM

@ Hexagon!

Might of missed it but didn't see proviron In there.

So your saying Pinnacle's PCT thread in the PCT forum is no good?

**choo9** · 05-21-2011, 01:02 PM

What you describe about your HCG sounds correct. You have to add water and refrigerate. Not sure how to check for legitimacy other than using but what lemonada said sounds like it would work.

**mikail** · 05-21-2011, 01:58 PM

Originally Posted by Lemonada8

how r u running the HCG?

I was planning on following pinnacles pct guide, but without aromasin since imy source doesn't have a link on it. So 500iu a day... Is HCG illegal in canada too?

**Hexagon** · 05-21-2011, 02:14 PM

Originally Posted by Dr Pepper

@ Hexagon!

Might of missed it but didn't see proviron In there.

So your saying Pinnacle's PCT thread in the PCT forum is no good?

I was talking about a different post all together :S Sorry!

The PCT protocol in here is an old protocol original written by Anthony Roberts.

I still don't see (and have never seen) the argument for having HCG in the PCT, and not during your cycle as valid. It is better if your Lydig cells are ready to produce testosterone when your cycle is done, than adding HCG "to wake" them after they have hibernated for a couple of month. Then they will need time to get up to speed.

**Lemonada8** · 05-21-2011, 03:42 PM

if you are on cycle now, i suggest begin NOW with 500iu 2x week. Then the first week of PCT do 1000iu. THen continue with the SERM treatment

If not begin it on the 2nd week of ur cycle at 250 iu 2x week (if thats not noticable enough, boost it to 500 2x week) then on the first day of PCT do 1000iu then be done and continue with SERM treatment