First Cycle: how to inject the product?

**siriuxs** · 05-18-2011, 03:10 PM

Hi to all, I'm Italian Guy (excuse me for bad english) and I want start my firt cycle of anabolic ... I will be an injection a week:

Week 1: Primobolan Depot 100mg
Week 2: Primobolan Depot 100mg + Deca Durabolin 100mg
Week 3: Primobolan Depot 100mg + Deca Durabolin 100mg
Week 4: Primobolan Depot 200mg + Deca Durabolin 100mg
Week 5: Primobolan Depot 200mg + Deca Durabolin 150mg
Week 6: Primobolan Depot 200mg + Deca Durabolin 100mg
Week 7: Primobolan Depot 100mg + Deca Durabolin 100mg
Week 8: Primobolan Depot 100mg + Deca Durabolin 50mg

After this cycle (after 2 week) I assume 40mg of novaldex (for 1 week) and after 20mg of novaldex (for a 1 week)

I want know how to inject the product? Very thanks for your reply.

**slimshady01** · 05-18-2011, 03:14 PM

Where the test ?

25mg of deca a week?

What's your stats son.

**TOkidd** · 05-18-2011, 03:16 PM

25mg a week of Deca is very, very little. 400mg/week is an average dose. 200mg per week is usually the lowest people go.

**TOkidd** · 05-18-2011, 03:31 PM

Oh, and you generally inject in your ass. The upper, right quarter of your buttock is the best spot to avoid hitting a nerve or vein/artery. Wipe the area with an alcohol swab. Uncap the syringe and suck up the contents of your vial. Make sure there is no air in the syringe by pushing the plunger until the liquid beads at the bevel of the syringe. Now tap to get any air bubbles to the top. Push the plunger gently to get this last bit of air out. Poke yourself with a 23 guage, 2" needle, then pull back slightly on the plunger to make sure you haven't hit a blood vessel (this is called aspirating). If any blood enters the chamber, pull out completely and try again. Once you aspirate and are sure you haven't hit a blood vessel, push the plunger slowly until all the contents is gone. Remove the needle slowly and quickly put pressure on the site with a cotton swab until bleeding stops. Alternate butt cheeks every injection. If injecting more than twice per week, use your quad or delt to inject. A 1" needle is all that's necessary with a delt or quad injection, but the process is essentially the same. Look at an anatomical drawing to locate blood vessels and nerves so you can avoid them.
Get a sharps container to toss your used syringes. The container can be disposed at a hospital when your cycle's done.

This is a very short description of injecting steroids . You should do more reading on the subject by using the "SEARCH" function on this board. Also, a search on Google will give you more information. This is just the basics. You really need to get this down before you start injecting. Do a practice run with bottled water a few days before your first shot to get your technique down so you don't waste any gear and are comfortable with a needle before you start putting liquid $ into your ass.

**Mass EffecT** · 05-18-2011, 04:20 PM

Search the forums here, you will find plenty of useful info on injection techniques as well as advice from Vets.

**siriuxs** · 05-18-2011, 04:31 PM

Very thanks, but I want know if I have to mix primobolan and deca or I do inject one at time...

With my cicle, I want to increase my lean body mass of 2-3kg (4-6lb)... it's possible?

**siriuxs** · 05-18-2011, 05:02 PM

I have little changed my cycle... I use little small doses to avoid side effects...

1. Primobolan depot 100 mg
2. Primobolan depot 100 mg e decadurabolin 50mg
3. Primobolan depot 100 mg e decadurabolin 100mg
4. Primobolan depot 200 mg e decadurabolin 100 mg
5. Primobolan depot 200 mg e decadurabolin 100 mg
6. Primobolan depot 200 mg e decadurabolin 50 mg
7. Primobolan depot 100 mg e decadurabolin 50 mg
8. Primobolan depot 100 mg

**Blade15** · 05-19-2011, 02:55 AM

Use test.. you will get what you want... research bro.. research......

**Dr Pepper** · 05-19-2011, 03:55 AM

This looks terrible... Your stats mate...?

Age?
Height?
Weight?
Bf%?

Let's begin there

**Blade15** · 05-19-2011, 08:22 AM

Originally Posted by Dr Pepper

This looks terrible... Your stats mate...?

Age?
Height?
Weight?
Bf%?

Let's begin there

Agreed 100X.. Stats bro...

**siriuxs** · 05-19-2011, 12:02 PM

Hi to all, My doctor advised me to start with low doses to see how my body reacts. This is my correctly cycle:

Week 1: Primobolan Depot 100mg
Week 2: Primobolan Depot 100mg + Deca Durabolin 100mg
Week 3: Primobolan Depot 100mg + Deca Durabolin 100mg
Week 4: Primobolan Depot 200mg + Deca Durabolin 100mg
Week 5: Primobolan Depot 200mg + Deca Durabolin 150mg
Week 6: Primobolan Depot 200mg + Deca Durabolin 100mg
Week 7: Primobolan Depot 100mg + Deca Durabolin 100mg
Week 8: Primobolan Depot 100mg + Deca Durabolin 50mg

After this cycle (after 2 week) I assume 40mg of novaldex (for 1 week) and after 20mg of novaldex (for a 1 week)

I'm 26 years old, my height is 168cm, my weight is 60kg (132lb). I Go to the gym for 1 year and a half, and follow a workout type BIIO. Now I want change and I would like to increase some muscle mass quickly.

My doctor isn't experienced in this area, and wanted to know if the Primobolan and Deca should be mixed before injecting them... Very thanks for your support!

**bass** · 05-19-2011, 12:17 PM

Originally Posted by slimshady01

Where the test ?

25mg of deca a week?

What's your stats son.

i love it! LOL...

**siriuxs** · 05-19-2011, 12:20 PM

Originally Posted by bass

i love it! LOL...

Read my last post

**bass** · 05-19-2011, 12:21 PM

Originally Posted by siriuxs

Hi to all, My doctor advised me to start with low doses to see how my body reacts. This is my correctly cycle:

Week 1: Primobolan Depot 100mg
Week 2: Primobolan Depot 100mg + Deca Durabolin 100mg
Week 3: Primobolan Depot 100mg + Deca Durabolin 100mg
Week 4: Primobolan Depot 200mg + Deca Durabolin 100mg
Week 5: Primobolan Depot 200mg + Deca Durabolin 150mg
Week 6: Primobolan Depot 200mg + Deca Durabolin 100mg
Week 7: Primobolan Depot 100mg + Deca Durabolin 100mg
Week 8: Primobolan Depot 100mg + Deca Durabolin 50mg

After this cycle (after 2 week) I assume 40mg of novaldex (for 1 week) and after 20mg of novaldex (for a 1 week)

I'm 26 years old, my height is 168cm, my weight is 60kg (132lb). I Go to the gym for 1 year and a half, and follow a workout type BIIO. Now I want change and I would like to increase some muscle mass quickly.

My doctor isn't experienced in this area, and wanted to know if the Primobolan and Deca should be mixed before injecting them... Very thanks for your support!

you shouldn't mix them in the vial, draw deca with the syringe then draw Primobolan with the same syringe! but like the guys pointed out, this is not a cycle, you'll get nothing but sides!

**gymfu** · 05-19-2011, 12:29 PM

Whats your diet look like?
Weight is a little low, have you made any gains naturaly?

**siriuxs** · 05-20-2011, 02:56 AM

Originally Posted by bass

you shouldn't mix them in the vial, draw deca with the syringe then draw Primobolan with the same syringe! but like the guys pointed out, this is not a cycle, you'll get nothing but sides!

Very thanks... excuse me, I have understand but not at 100%... Please correct me:

1. Draw deca with the syringe
2. Inject deca in my body
3. Draw Primobolan with the syringe
4. Inject Primobolan in my body

OR

1. Draw deca with the syringe
2. Draw Primobolan with the syringe
3. Inject all in my body

Very thanks!

**siriuxs** · 05-20-2011, 02:57 AM

Originally Posted by bass

you shouldn't mix them in the vial, draw deca with the syringe then draw Primobolan with the same syringe! but like the guys pointed out, this is not a cycle, you'll get nothing but sides!

Very thanks... excuse me, I have understand but not at 100%... Please correct me:

1. Draw deca with the syringe
2. Inject deca in my body
3. Draw Primobolan with the syringe
4. Inject Primobolan in my body

OR

1. Draw deca with the syringe
2. Draw Primobolan with the syringe
3. Inject all in my body

Very thanks!

**siriuxs** · 05-20-2011, 02:58 AM

Originally Posted by gymfu

Whats your diet look like?
Weight is a little low, have you made any gains naturaly?

You are right, but it's my composition

**Dr Pepper** · 05-20-2011, 03:15 AM

Originally Posted by siriuxs

You are right, but it's my composition

Your not ready for the use of steroids . At 60kgs you are very light and I'm guessing have a lot more to grow naturally. My advice is to do a lot more research. But I would like to see what ur diet is like?

**siriuxs** · 05-20-2011, 04:27 AM

Uhm... is more complicated for me explain my diet in english...

Anyway, this is the reason because I want start with a little dose of steroids ... I just want a little help... please help me in this question:

Please correct me:

1. Draw deca with the syringe
2. Inject deca in my body
3. Draw Primobolan with the syringe
4. Inject Primobolan in my body

OR

1. Draw deca with the syringe
2. Draw Primobolan with the syringe
3. Inject all in my body

Very thanks!

**Dr Pepper** · 05-20-2011, 04:33 AM

Your English is acceptable. Explain your diet first?

**siriuxs** · 05-20-2011, 04:54 AM

Morning (10:00):
250ml milk with 30gr of Whey Optimum Nutrition + 2 rusks with marmalade

Snack (11:45):
10 almonds

Lunch (13:00):
120gr pasta with tomato
160gr meat
Salad

Snak (15:30):
50gr bread with 80gr of ham + 10 almonds

Dinner (20:45):
240gr meat + salad/carrots or other verdure
50gr bread
Fruit

Snak (24:00):
250ml of milk with 30gr of casein

NB: 6 months ago I weighed 56kg

This is an example of my food...

**bass** · 05-20-2011, 08:52 AM

Originally Posted by siriuxs

Morning (10:00):
250ml milk with 30gr of Whey Optimum Nutrition + 2 rusks with marmalade

Snack (11:45):
10 almonds

Lunch (13:00):
120gr pasta with tomato
160gr meat
Salad

Snak (15:30):
50gr bread with 80gr of ham + 10 almonds

Dinner (20:45):
240gr meat + salad/carrots or other verdure
50gr bread
Fruit

Snak (24:00):
250ml of milk with 30gr of casein

NB: 6 months ago I weighed 56kg

This is an example of my food...

bad diet! you will lose muscle while eating like this even if yo are on cycle! and NO, don't inject in your body twice, draw both compounds into one syringe then inject. but i agree with the guys, you are NOT ready for any cycle, for your own good DO NOT cycle, read and learn first so you don't screw up your health.

**siriuxs** · 05-20-2011, 11:07 AM

This is my complete diet...(In Italian):

Mattina (ore 9:30):
- Latte 250ml (Zimil)
- Misurino 30gr di proteine (Optimum nutrition)
- 2 fette biscottate con marmellata

Spuntino (ore 11:30):
- 10 mandorle
- ?

Pranzo (ore 13:10): Nota: mangio con i nonni, quindi non sempre posso farmi cucinare quello che voglio io
- 120gr pasta (al sugo, con i piselli, con i legumi, con le vongole, con i fagioli, etc..)
- 150gr di carne o pesce
- Verdura poca e non sempre (1 Cucchiaino olio)
- Frutta

Spuntino (ore 17:15):
- 50gr. Toast o pane
- 70gr. affettati magri (o uovo o barretta proteica)
- 10 mandorle

Cena (ore 20:40):
- 200gr. (o più) di carne/pesce
- Insalata + cucchiaino di olio
- 50gr pane/toast
- Frutta

Pre Nanna (ore 24:00):
- 250ml latte (zimil)
- 30gr. misurino caseine

**gymfu** · 05-20-2011, 11:18 AM

Welcome from Italia. My wife is from Spain, all her family thinks I'm weird. Good to hear from a european bodybuilder.

Ok, your diet is definaltly a problem. This is very common, when I was looking to do my first cycle I thought my diet was good and ran my cycle, made moderate gains and lost EVERYTHING when I got off. The same would most likely happen to you.

There is a diet section in this forum. I HIGHLY suggest you post your diet there and let those guys fix it up for your. I promise once your eating right your body will start growing, I know it seems too eazy and that drugs would work better but trust me the diet will give you better results at this point.

**JohnnyVegas** · 05-20-2011, 11:21 AM

Originally Posted by siriuxs

Hi to all, My doctor advised me to start with low doses to see how my body reacts.

My doctor isn't experienced in this area, and wanted to know if the Primobolan and Deca should be mixed before injecting them...

Your doctor is right, he isn't experienced. You should not do anything he says as I don't think he knows any more than you do. Please stick around here and do a lot of reading. You will be healthier, and have fewer problems if you learn some things first.

**siriuxs** · 05-20-2011, 11:41 AM

Originally Posted by JohnnyVegas

Your doctor is right, he isn't experienced. You should not do anything he says as I don't think he knows any more than you do. Please stick around here and do a lot of reading. You will be healthier, and have fewer problems if you learn some things first.

Read here on the forum? And on what basis should I trust people who do not I know you? What are your scientific reasoning? If substantiated your answers, I'd be happy to change my mind! My choice was made on a scientific basis, analyzing for good products, and studying one thing that is good for me!

**bass** · 05-20-2011, 01:16 PM

Originally Posted by siriuxs

Read here on the forum? And on what basis should I trust people who do not I know you? What are your scientific reasoning? If substantiated your answers, I'd be happy to change my mind! My choice was made on a scientific basis, analyzing for good products, and studying one thing that is good for me!

if you don't trust this forum or any, why even bother posting your question?! if you want real science this is the place, read the stickies bro!

**JohnnyVegas** · 05-20-2011, 01:43 PM

Originally Posted by siriuxs

Read here on the forum? And on what basis should I trust people who do not I know you? What are your scientific reasoning? If substantiated your answers, I'd be happy to change my mind! My choice was made on a scientific basis, analyzing for good products, and studying one thing that is good for me!

I was encouraging you to read a lot, because you SHOULDN'T trust just me. Do the reading, see what the consensus is among people with real experience, then make up your mind. All I am doing is encouraging you to be part of the community and learn more before starting.

**Dctibor** · 05-20-2011, 01:48 PM

With a turkey baster.

**vtach12** · 05-20-2011, 01:50 PM

^^^ Wow! Hopefully theres just a language barrier here.

**DGK** · 05-20-2011, 02:18 PM

at least one of these a day huh lmao

**MACHINE5150** · 05-20-2011, 02:26 PM

i understand trying to do a small dose your first time. But doing that little of deca and primo will not do anything. You should do a test only cycle at a low dose. ten weeks.. two shots a week..

with the cycle you propose there is no PCT planned and the amount you are doing and compounds you are doing will result in you not being able to sexually perform.. as the deca increases prolactin and results in erectile dysfunction.

we are only trying to help mate.

**siriuxs** · 05-20-2011, 02:52 PM

Originally Posted by MACHINE5150

i understand trying to do a small dose your first time. But doing that little of deca and primo will not do anything. You should do a test only cycle at a low dose. ten weeks.. two shots a week..

with the cycle you propose there is no PCT planned and the amount you are doing and compounds you are doing will result in you not being able to sexually perform.. as the deca increases prolactin and results in erectile dysfunction.

we are only trying to help mate.

Very thanks for your reply! I have planned a PCT... Please rese my cycle:

Week 1: Primobolan Depot 100mg
Week 2: Primobolan Depot 100mg + Deca Durabolin 100mg
Week 3: Primobolan Depot 100mg + Deca Durabolin 100mg
Week 4: Primobolan Depot 200mg + Deca Durabolin 100mg
Week 5: Primobolan Depot 200mg + Deca Durabolin 150mg
Week 6: Primobolan Depot 200mg + Deca Durabolin 100mg
Week 7: Primobolan Depot 100mg + Deca Durabolin 100mg
Week 8: Primobolan Depot 100mg + Deca Durabolin 50mg

After this cycle (after 2 week) I assume 40mg of novaldex (for 1 week) and after 20mg of novaldex (for a 1 week)

**bass** · 05-20-2011, 03:53 PM

thats it, you're screwed! you're not going to listen and you PCT is shit! in fact your cycle is just as shitty as you PCT! last advice, keep reading for at least another year then consider cycling!

**siriuxs** · 05-20-2011, 03:59 PM

Originally Posted by bass

thats it, you're screwed! you're not going to listen and you PCT is shit! in fact your cycle is just as shitty as you PCT! last advice, keep reading for at least another year then consider cycling!

could you tell me how to fix the cycle and pct?

**Booz** · 05-20-2011, 04:02 PM

give him a break boys............

the members here are correct mate your cycle is not a good one really, you will imo gain next to nothing with the very small doses you have there, you would gain more from a better constructed diet............
oh and to ans your question you draw both into the syringe and inject at the same time but i advise you not to as the cycle is not great.........

**siriuxs** · 05-20-2011, 04:07 PM

If my cycle and my PCT is not correct, please you correct it... I still want to take only these two products. I have to increase the dose?

**JohnnyVegas** · 05-20-2011, 05:01 PM

I think people are trying to get you to learn how this works so YOU can fix it. In my opinion, you should have a firm understanding of things you put in your body.

**bass** · 05-20-2011, 05:08 PM

Originally Posted by siriuxs

could you tell me how to fix the cycle and pct?

thats the problem bro! you're just not listening! i am not an expert on cycling or PCT but i know yours is not a good one! you even got Booz telling you bro, if you don't listen to him them we don't matter anyway! did you read this?

http://www.steroid.com/primobolan-depot.php

don't do the cycle until you get a clear understanding of what you are doing, that and PCT as well. once you get your cycle set then go to the PCT section and post your cycle there so you can get a proper PCT form the experts.

good luck bro! i think i said enough!