HELP- I need some info about TREN and VAR !!

[nebojsanexus]

Hi guys.. Im 18 years old.. I spent 3 years working out in the gym.. Ive got 84kg and im 186 cm tall.. I read a lot about AAS, and im very confused about them.. I know pretty much stuff, but I cant decide what cycle would be best for me.. I used PH before an Im really satisfied with results.. But recently i talked to a guy that sells AAS and he told me that if i want a lean muscle body and really nice definition i should cycle Trenbolone and Anavar o.O ?? I mean Tren is for some experienced guys and i told him that but he says that its safe if i use it for a 8 week cycle 100mg eod ? and Var ed ?
Look, i dont want to have big muscles and that stuff, i just want to gain about 4 kg more but not water and i want to have model body..
Can u plz help me and tell me what cycle is best for me. ?

[38jumper38]

Confused?
Young?
AAS is not for you.

Go back to gym, eat-eat-eat, and rest, comeback later when you are older enough.

[SlimmerMe]

WHAT? I hope you are kidding!

18?

All I can say is that I sure hope this is a practical joke to get the goat of someone here.

[SlimmerMe]

The Young and Steroids by Marcus300

Due to the recent number of PM's ive been receiving regarding age and steroids I thought i'd write this thread to try and help some of our younger members. Ive also been having a conversation with my Endocrinologist who may give a more profession opinion on the subject:

There isn't an exact age were we all stop developing and growing because this is determined by our genes and DNA, we are all genetically programmed individually and we inherit our genes from our parents. To give an exact age we stop growing would be incorrect because everyone's genetic blueprint is different.The main development of our bodies is up to the age of 21yrs of age but this can vary between individuals. There are parts of our bodies what carry on developing and adjusting slowly up until the age of 25yrs old, an example of this is the brain. The Endocrine system is a part of the brain what is very complex and keeps our bodies in a homeostasis state. Our testosterone levels start raising and roughly peak around 25yrs old and then start to slowly decline, so even though some of us may have stopped growing at the age of 21yrs old, others may still be developing up until the age of 25yrs old.

I have recently spoken to my Endo regarding this matter and he tells me that the HPTA is very sensitive and as many pathways how it regulates the human body, he states steroids disrupt the normal balance of hormones in the body which can cause reversible and irreversible changes at any age but risks are far more if you administrate exogenous androgens during development, this will put you in a very unnatural environment at a crucial time and your hormones should be treated with care especially in the early stages of maturity. The adverse effects can be erratic behaviour of the HPTA and potentially therapy when your older.

I did ask him what age he would think would be the safest as far as risk to damages and he said many endocrinologist suggest full maturation is reached by 25 years of age and this would also give the HPTA time to be established with your natural hormone balance and patterns. I personally feel 24-25yrs old would also be ideal starting point to get bloodwrok drawn to see exact what your natural levels are before starting any kind of cycles and waiting till you have reach your testosterone peak would be a good starting point, for me there is to much evidence over the forums and what I've seen personally over the last 25yrs I've been bodybuilding. Obviously it isn't going to be all 19- 21yr old bodybuilders who suffer side effects what are irreversible but I am edging on the side of caution what age I advice to the newbies.
Marcus

[Lemonada8]

hey Dont do steroids! you have alot of natural test in ur system, it would be a waste. Look into supplements, protein, pre/post workout, creatine, NO xplode. and run and eat like a freakin horse eating cow. If you only wanna gain 4 kilos, 10lbs, you can easily get that naturally and look better, and have better functioning balls!

[gearbox]

get your DIET in check if you really want a MODEL body as you said. I believe you will see fast results if you STICK to a proper diet. dedication is the key.
DO NOT USE STEROIDS...and I personally would not talk to that guy at gym trying to sell you them. He obviously is in it only for the money, and does not care about your health at all. other wise he would know how dangerous it is for you...Not a great role model

[nebojsanexus]

Ok guys.. U all cleared my mind about AAS.. So thanks Now after i read all your posts i see that i need to fix my diet, supplement and sleeping plans.. And of course after all, i will not do AAS!
And I was not joking..
Thanks for your answers ♥