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    SURVEY: How long have you been using AAS without time off?

    Hey, I'm trying to better understand how people are using AAS to grow and maintain that physique. A part of this research is to survey you guys on the lengths of your usage and your strategies employed to maintain the big boy physique. So, do you use 12 weeks on, PCT, then 16 or so weeks off before using AAS again? Or are you using AAS for 12 weeks then bridging over to another 12 weeks for example? Or what? How are you best avoiding the weight loss inbetween cycle? Please take a second to shed some light on what strategy you use and why. Thank you
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    currently on a 25 week cycle and not suffering any sides hence the long cycle, after that use a strong aggressive PCT plan, then off for roughly 2-4 months depending on blood levels etc...

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    Bump!

    Interesting thread... Hope some vets chime in

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosco901 View Post
    currently on a 25 week cycle and not suffering any sides hence the long cycle, after that use a strong aggressive PCT plan, then off for roughly 2-4 months depending on blood levels etc...
    Im not having any sides either and was considerin running my cycle longer too. What is ur current cycle and planned pct?

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    cycle started at:

    d-bol weeks 1-4
    Sust 250 weeks 1-15
    deca weeks 1-13


    Then moved on to Tren E and Test E

    tren E weeks -15-25
    Test E weeks- 15-27

    PCT involves HCG after last test jab at 250iu every 4 days for 2 weeks then after thats out the system clomid and novla for a further 3 weeks, and also taking tribulus and vitamin c through entire PCT i also have caber on hand for any libido issues and adex for any gyno issues but like i say deca was a 19-nor compound and never suffered any deca dick or gyno only a little water retention.

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    Why would sides determine cycle length?

    I'm on week 10, 2 more weeks to go then off for years

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    Be good to hear from some cruisers. (not trt)

    burst cruise burst cruise burst etc etc...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Pepper View Post
    Be good to hear from some cruisers. (not trt)

    burst cruise burst cruise burst etc etc...
    Sorry but thats call TRT for most of us.

    3 1/2 years

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    lovbyts is that you saying youv been on for 3 1/2 years if so do you mind if i ask what your taking?

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    and the reason i put it partially down to sides is because if your doing a strongish cycle and not getting any sides and all BW is ok then why not make the cycle longer to maximise gains, thats why i changed to test tren half way thorugh as all levels were ok, like i say after a long cycle ensure that you do an aggressive PCT and after BW is done again and its normal you kinda know your limits.

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    3 years 5 months... (hrt)

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    Is blast and cruise on a trt like program the method that will take you the furthest regarding growth with AAS?

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    Hope the Vets have something to add

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosco901 View Post
    lovbyts is that you saying youv been on for 3 1/2 years if so do you mind if i ask what your taking?
    Test E per doctors prescription TRT and a few burst

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    this thread is going to put all sorts of ideas in newbies heads........with that said i think i usually do one 12 week cycle and 1 or 2 6 week cycles per year.

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    Hopefully it will sort out those "ideas".
    Do you maintain your physique with your approach to cycling? Or do you find you experience some fluctuation in weight inbetween cycles? If so, what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheClinch View Post
    Hopefully it will sort out those "ideas".
    Do you maintain your physique with your approach to cycling? Or do you find you experience some fluctuation in weight inbetween cycles? If so, what?
    if i run 200mg a week of test between cycles i lose about 5lbs......usually i run a pct in which case i will lose 10-15lbs but allot of water because i don't use ai's for bloat. im in the low 300s though and i think guys who are heavier tend to fluctuate more in weight.

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    So are u saying that while stopping the bulking cycle of lets say 600 mg test a week, while running pct to do a maintenance type of dose around 200 mg a week?

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    three years hrt with bursts... I have gone as long as three months totally off without any pct at all... I dont have any sides at all and have used pct only once

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    Quote Originally Posted by DGK View Post
    So are u saying that while stopping the bulking cycle of lets say 600 mg test a week, while running pct to do a maintenance type of dose around 200 mg a week?
    no i do one or the other not both at the same time. if i do a 12 week cycle i usually do pct after. if i do a six week cycle instead of pct i might just take 200mg a week for 6-8 weeks and then go into a second 6 week cycle and follow that with pct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ComputerGuy View Post
    three years hrt with bursts... I have gone as long as three months totally off without any pct at all... I dont have any sides at all and have used pct only once
    And how would you describe the weight maintenance after coming off a blast?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovbyts View Post
    Sorry but thats call TRT for most of us.

    3 1/2 years
    Sorry I should have been bait clearer...

    I mean guys who blast and cruise to the next cycle that are doing it for purposes of competing not for trt.

    How long?
    What compounds?
    What doses?
    Sides?
    Planned PCT?
    Stats?

    All the good stuff...

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    Long enough to need more blood work done to ensure im able to make it to the end of the year

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Pepper View Post
    Sorry I should have been bait clearer...

    I mean guys who blast and cruise to the next cycle that are doing it for purposes of competing not for trt.

    How long?
    What compounds?
    What doses?
    Sides?
    Planned PCT?
    Stats?

    All the good stuff...

    Bump

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    Quote Originally Posted by buffgator View Post
    no i do one or the other not both at the same time. if i do a 12 week cycle i usually do pct after. if i do a six week cycle instead of pct i might just take 200mg a week for 6-8 weeks and then go into a second 6 week cycle and follow that with pct.
    ok got ya..

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovbyts View Post
    Sorry but thats call TRT for most of us.

    3 1/2 years
    Might be a personal question but did you visit fertility clinic before and bank some sperm? you might not be able to have kids which you might not care about but thats something I would definitely consider if I were to go TRT

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    off and on for the last 8yrs, with 3 of those yrs being on trt. im sure my younger cycles put me on trt tho

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    lots of info.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Pepper View Post
    Sorry I should have been bait clearer...

    I mean guys who blast and cruise to the next cycle that are doing it for purposes of competing not for trt.

    How long?
    What compounds?
    What doses?
    Sides?
    Planned PCT?
    Stats?

    All the good stuff...
    No you where clear. You have been around long enough to know I take every opportunity to be a smart aas. No harm meant.

    Now I would like to clarify since I am on TRT if I had a choice I would rather not be. Some people claim how TRT makes them feel 20 again. I feel better than I did a few years ago but nothing like I did when I was 20 and I would never risk shutting down my natural test if I had a choice so to me blasting and cruising is a bad idea. You may think you wont care now but someday you might and what happens if/when the health-care is more screwed up and you can not get test anymore? You may be stuck trying to find black market and then if that's a problem you dont have any and are stuck with either very low or no natural test so your dumb stick will only be good for taking a piss.

    Dont think that it will always be easy to get. Things change, insurance changes and jobs change. Nothing is guaranteed except if you shut yourself down at some point it will become a problem.

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    i do 12 weeks on and 12 off. on off weeks I continue with HGH and do igf/mgf

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