Is this a no no or not?
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Is this a no no or not?
Generally they dont know squat about juice. At least that's how it is where i'm living.
Not wise because every other problem you'll have from now on they'll put the blame on roids.
My advice is no, maybe others know better.
What reason or benefit would you have from telling him?
I wouldn't because if he puts it your chart you can damn well bet your current insurance company and any other ones in the future can and will get it if they decide to pull all your records for some reason.
No compelling reason to tell your doc and some very compelling reasons not to... It will probably go in your chart. Then your doc might do some reading and determine that "abuse" of steroids leads to "abuse" of other drugs and then you are flagged as a possible drug addict...
depends. If your going to dr for a problem that might be related i would tell them
I remeber telling my doctor I was feeling sluggish, had no energy, and couldn't get my dick hard. All in an attempt to get juice. She gave me a scrip for viagra and some androgel. The androgel was weak. I had no problem with low test, but was trying to get juice. After a couple months of androgel I told her was not working. She said to get my blood tested. I put it off but told her I was going to take matters into my own hands and take D-bol. I was hoping she would rather me do test under supervision. That didnt work. I ended up going to see her for an infection a few months later that I aquired while pinning one of my legs. She knew what the cause was and I didnt lie. I was honest with her and looking back I wish I would have lied. The information was put into my file and it is there to stay. In a perfect world it would be nice to be able to confide in your family doctor, but I learned this is not that world. I pay $ for life insurance for my family in case I die. That money could be rejected if the insurance company find out I ever used juice. If I have a heart attack it will be blamed on the juice and my family will denied the money I payed out. I could not explain my infection when confronted aboutit, but looking back I should have made up something stupid like I was shooting vitamin B-12. So this is the reason I say do NOT tell your doctor if you live in the United states. They will hold it against you. I asked for the info to be removed and was denied. Keep your mouth shut my friend.
Is this only in the US?Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris J
How does the EU fair up with screwing you sideways in this regard?
I only would as a last ditch effort type thing. These things can come back to bite you in theQuote:
Originally Posted by kelevra
ass with insurance and such.
In europe its even worse, cause you dont even have as many patiences or doctors dealing with HRT like you have in the US.
Plus there are very very few who actually know anything about roids other that the folclore myths.
Bottom line, dont say nothing, deny everything.
But getting blood work done when on cycle....
Just say your taking a legal pro-hormone and play dumb?
But when your blood results reach the lab your name will forever have
test levels: 9000+ on it regardless if it's a legal prohormone or not, no?
so maybe tell the doc to send it in anonymously?
Hell no. I am on TRT so if I **** up a jab, I'm OK. But, I would never tell her. The less the know, the better.
I'm on TRT from an Endo but I still wont tell my GP. If it's in your records you may be denied a job, life insurance, medical insurance. Dont say/think that it cant or wont be shared. Do you believe everything they tell you and like everything the rules keep changing.
My insurance company though my work has some program that is supposed to be some type of wellness advisor. They call you once a month or so to see if they can advise you on diet (they dont know sh*t) weight loss (Im trying to gain weight/muscle) how to manage pain and what not but they also have a list of all the meds you are getting from you GP. They are NOT doctors and I have not given them the permission to access my files but they sure to seem to know a lot, to much.
Nothing is private. If you get a divorce someday it could all become part of the court documents that are public records and if you become rich someday you are more likely to be sued and your medical records could be subpoena also becoming public records.
I had a Doc that gave me my shots and blood tests several time while on.
wow now i know why my gbro told me if i ever go and see a doc or even get a blood test to nvr mention gear. nice post and yes the US is very harsh on these thing not like some country where it's free, And this is not the land of the free and i once served for this country still love it but in the end its reason to deny life insur,health or paying more etc...
Do not tell them. Your insurance company may deny coverage, etc! It's only allergies and water retention. You know what you got to do.Quote:
Originally Posted by kelevra
Go to the right doc and you wont NEED to tell them.
just be careful if you are prescribed alot of meds with liver enzyme interactions because these enzymes also digest oral steroids.
probably most useful thread I read today.
I wanted to get bloodtest done this week and they always ask "what for"
I know the doc for many years so I was gonna say "im thinking about juicing"
after reading this,
helll nawwwww
well... bring it up in a non clinical setting and find out his level of knowledge... might find it to be useful...
So still no answer,
What do you guys who are in Europe who have no option of an online anonymous blood testing service do in relation to blood testing when on AAS?
Can a doc send off a full blood panel anonymously?
This doc is not a GP he works in a center that specializes in blood panels only.
I'm assuming he would not as is it illegal for him to use incorrect information?
I don't want a permanent tick beside my name on the public records for using androgen's
And or my health insurance some day raping my ass when I need them
But im also interested in my health....
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I have a family Doc that I totally trust. Everything is off the record when we talk about the gear. If I did not trust my Doc then no way!
There are labs in every city that you can get the work done, and mailed directly to you. You pay cash, you keep up with the results. I've always thought if you spend the money to buy the gear, spend the money for the labs as well.
you dont have to show id to fill out a blood test.. i just gave them a fake name and went to a clinic.. paid them 50 bucks then stopped by and picked it up.. didnt do it through my normal doc.. not issues
Ditto.Quote:
Originally Posted by court628
I've known my PCP for years. He knows about my use, but would never put it on my medical history.
Every few months I tell him what I need done, and he gladly writes me a script for blood work.
It's a pretty sweat deal.
But if I didn't know/trust him, I would never tell.
I did and he was willing to prescribe me some. He also told me if something went wrong with sides to tell him and he would hook me up with legit nolva and hcg.
You never know until you ask.
to think of it there was one time when i first starting trying gear lol i mention to my doc and he said in his own words, its fine if you know what your doing and how much and for how long lol
Hey, Good input.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris J
I have been to the Doc so very little I didnt know what they would hold confidetial or what they would allow seen to others. Very good points
HAHAHA.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ronnie Rowland
Of course i didn't tell him. You were right on as always. He prescribed some short term prednisone for allergy and Albut.. inhaler. I have cut carbs from about 225 down to 125ish with no dairy right now. I have dropped a couple of pounds of water over the last 2 days. Between that and the meds, I,m already feeling much better.
I did want to get some opinions for what guys do in some situations. I have been to the doc so few times in life it makes me very ignorant of what they keep in records for others to see.
To the rest, Thanx for the input. Some good points. The disclaimer is i certainly wouldn't be looking at them for any help with cycle or whatever. I sounds great that some out there have doc's they can trust, but it sounds like unless you have that, you need not say anything.
OH, My doc did ask if i was on supplements. I told him fish oil & creatine.