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    Changing Cycle Mid-Cycle?

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    Height - 5' 11"
    Weight - 180
    BF - 6-8%

    Goals - 190lbs, I want to build as much lean muscle as possible while maintaining the ripped look I have now.

    Okay, I'm about to hit week 5 of my first cycle, Dbol and Test Cyp. I made another post a little while back about changing from Test Cyp to Test E. Since then I've come up with a couple more ideas that I'd like to add/change to my cycle. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

    I am looking at running an Anavar (100mgED), Masteron (400mg/week), Test E (600 mg/week) cycle. I have low BF so I think I'd get pretty good results from the Masteron. I picked the Anavar because it's pretty gentle on the body, from what I understand it'll cut fat while still building muscle mass, and supposedly it works well with Masteron. Then of course the Test because, well, it's Test!

    Like I said, I'm 5 weeks into my cycle. I've been running 400mg/week of the Test Cyp. My bottle is empty after this Thursdays shot and I need to pickup my second bottle. I recently found a new supplier whom is much cheaper than my guy now. I was planning on switching to the Test E mid-cycle because of the money save, but as I was looking at everything else he offered it really got me thinking.

    I figure I have four options. One, finish the last 5 weeks of Test E then PCT for around 30 days and start a new cycle. Two, go ahead and just add the Anavar and Masteron in now, and finish out the last 5 weeks of the cycle. Three, stop my cycle after Thursday and PCT for a couple weeks then pickup with the Anavar, Masteron, and Test E. Four, just start a new 10 week cycle now, since in the end it'll still only be a total of 15 weeks.

    Any thoughts? Also, would Deca have any place in the cycle? I was thinking because my BF is so low that I could run Deca instead of Anavar, but I don't know how the Deca and Masteron would run together. I know Anavar and Deca are very different in the way they act. I'm just like everyone else and trying to find the best results for me.
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    dude its your first cycle.....stick to the original plan, your gains are just starting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buffgator View Post
    dude its your first cycle.....stick to the original plan, your gains are just starting.
    Right, but since I'm not having any sides wouldn't be be okay to look at other avenues? From what I understand the point of the first cycle and going some what light is too test your body, right?

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    Even if I do finish my first cycle as planned. How does the above cycle look for a second cycle?

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    Id run EQ over Deca . Read the Steriod profiles here. In my opion I would also bump the test up to 750 mg a week from the mid to late part of the cycle then take less to a off taper as you introduce your PCT.
    Also mast needs a 12 wk cycle for results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donjuice View Post
    Id run EQ over Deca . Read the Steriod profiles here. In my opion I would also bump the test up to 750 mg a week from the mid to late part of the cycle then take less to a off taper as you introduce your PCT.
    Also mast needs a 12 wk cycle for results.
    Okay awesome. Thanks for the advice.

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    Calm down man! you are hardly half way through your first cycle and your talking about stacking stuff when the test has no even fully kicked in yet lol First of all test cyp and enth both take about 4-6 weeks to really kick in and your best gains come from week 6-12 so I dont know how you could know you want to stack more stuff already? More is not better. Second Steroids are not magic...you wont gains shit if you arnt eating enouph and training hard! Most guys who dont gain alot have horrible diets and think that taking a shake after a workout and eating a sub is enouph to make them grow lol you need to be eating every 3 hours, pushing your self in the gym! ect ect.

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    You want to put on size fast? Bump you calories up by 1000cals and add an extra meal in your diet...watch your self grow!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donjuice View Post
    Id run EQ over Deca . Read the Steriod profiles here. In my opion I would also bump the test up to 750 mg a week from the mid to late part of the cycle then take less to a off taper as you introduce your PCT.
    Also mast needs a 12 wk cycle for results.
    I Would never run e.q. over deca. Deca doesnt aramatize much so almost no bloat from it. If you do more research on e.q you will find not too many people are a fan of it. Ive run it and feel it was a total waste of money. deca would have been a much better choice. Plus deca in a cutting cycle is awesome and prob the most under rated cutting compound imo

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    Its not that I'm trying to get big fast. I've put on around 15lbs in the first 4 weeks. I just want to get the most for my money, that's all. Sounds like the consensus is about the same though, wait and finish this next five weeks.

    Thanks for the input.

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    Stick with test cyp since its going to start peaking soon.
    Add masteron from now on and leave the D-bol and anavar out.

    Test and masteron, will do the work for you...

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    You will just now start to see the full effects of the test. Don't start staking until.you know what the test has done for you. Also, is your new source legit? Be wary if the price is to good. Maybe just bump your test up a little if you want bigger results.

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    your seeing great gains save your money for a second cycle. also as for the sides your only at week 5......i don't usually start to see signs of gyno until week 8 or so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buffgator View Post
    your seeing great gains save your money for a second cycle. also as for the sides your only at week 5......i don't usually start to see signs of gyno until week 8 or so.
    i agree with this except spend your money on more food. eat eat eat and you will grow grow grow

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    Quote Originally Posted by buffgator View Post
    your seeing great gains save your money for a second cycle. also as for the sides your only at week 5......i don't usually start to see signs of gyno until week 8 or so.
    i agree with this except spend your money on more food. eat eat eat and you will grow grow grow

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    test and deca is like peanut butter and jelly.. they just work great together.. adding a few hundred milligrams of deca into your cycle and running it a total of 14 weeks is alright.. a bit on the extreme size but you will still get great results.. you would need to act fast though.. good luck.. also food is more important than gear.. ABC Always Be Chewing!!! just eat as much meat and potatoes as you can and you will get the results you want. guaranteed.

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    When I do start the Masteron and Deca would it be better to use Test Cyp or Test E?

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    Im going to tell you right now that gun slinging and always adding and dropping compounds from a cycle will give you no better results than just sticking with something. I know its fun and exciting to day dream about all the possibilitys but its a super bad habbit to get into.

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    Yea, I am going to wait. I just am planning my second cycle now. That's why I asked if it would matter if I ran Test Cyp or Test E with the Masteron and Deca . I've read the steroid profiles and from what I gather from those is that they are really the same thing. Just that some people "claim" to get more explosive results in the beginning.

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    oh got ya i see.

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