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    Anavar and diet

    I will start a cycle of anavar next week.

    My goal is to gain some lean mass, with a very simple cycle of Var (40mg daily) and Test (I´m going to take a small dose of testosterone , 250 mg per week. Have Nolva, just in case and Clomid for PCT)

    My question is:
    since Var sometimes kills your appetite, should I eat the calories that I have set out to increase weight or just eat when I'm hungry and let the gear do it´s thing?

    Thanks a lot!!

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    stick to your meal plan, how many weeks are you doing this for ?

    and we need stats age, height, weight, experience, bf% etc etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by bjo2925 View Post
    I will start a cycle of anavar next week.

    My goal is to gain some lean mass, with a very simple cycle of Var (40mg daily) and Test (I´m going to take a small dose of testosterone , 250 mg per week. Have Nolva, just in case and Clomid for PCT)

    My question is:
    since Var sometimes kills your appetite, should I eat the calories that I have set out to increase weight or just eat when I'm hungry and let the gear do it´s thing?

    Thanks a lot!!
    gear doesnt just do its thing. You NEED to eat correctly

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    I´m almost 34 years old, work out since i´m 26. It´s my first cycle in several years.
    I´m 172 cm, 63 kg and 5% BF.

    I´m going to run it for 8 weeks, with 3 weeks of PCT.

    About the diet, in order to keep my BF this low, i never eat when i´m not hungry.. well, sometimes i even don´t eat when i´m hungry.
    I know.. that´s stupid!!

    I want to gain some pounds with minimum fat gain. More advices on diet, please!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bjo2925 View Post
    I´m almost 34 years old, work out since i´m 26. It´s my first cycle in several years.
    I´m 172 cm, 63 kg and 5% BF.

    I´m going to run it for 8 weeks, with 3 weeks of PCT.

    About the diet, in order to keep my BF this low, i never eat when i´m not hungry.. well, sometimes i even don´t eat when i´m hungry.
    I know.. that´s stupid!!

    I want to gain some pounds with minimum fat gain. More advices on diet, please!
    if thats all true then go to the diet section of this forum. You can easily get your goals without the anavar if you just eat properly every day

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    I understand what you are saying, and of corse this is all truth (why should I lie?). But I'm really motivated to do this cycle, and I allready bought the gear..

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    Quote Originally Posted by bjo2925 View Post
    I understand what you are saying, and of corse this is all truth (why should I lie?). But I'm really motivated to do this cycle, and I allready bought the gear..
    the gear wont go bad if you save it.

    why not start eating correctly get good results and then cycle and get even better results?

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    I'll do both!

    I will eat better and make the cycle.

    I'm sure you understand my motivation. It's not a matter of reason but of heart.

    all I want to know is: Should I eat the number of calories I'm Supposed to eat, even though I'm not hungry, or just eat when I'm hungry.

    If I start eating without being hungry, won´t i gain fat?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bjo2925 View Post
    I'll do both!

    I will eat better and make the cycle.

    I'm sure you understand my motivation. It's not a matter of reason but of heart.

    all I want to know is: Should I eat the number of calories I'm Supposed to eat, even though I'm not hungry, or just eat when I'm hungry.

    If I start eating without being hungry, won´t i gain fat?
    No, you need to eat according your macros & TDEE & Goals in mind. The last statement is completely false. I'd strongly recommend posting your diet in the diet section of the forums to be evaluated and improved upon. Also, you are definitely not 5% bodyfat otherwise you'd be competing in shows. I would also encourage you to post a picture or buy a set of calipers to accurately determine your bodyfat percentage.

    Diet is the foundation to successful bodybuilding, no amount of steroid is going to revolutionize the way you look without proper nutrition. In my opinion, I'd spend a lot more time improving upon, and showing dedication to a better diet before cycling.

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    Thank you, Windex!!

    I´m going to try upload a picture of meName:  bjo,.jpg
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    And yes, I am 5 BF %

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    Your pic will not open for me, closer to 7-8% from the looks of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Windex View Post
    No, you need to eat according your macros & TDEE & Goals in mind. The last statement is completely false. I'd strongly recommend posting your diet in the diet section of the forums to be evaluated and improved upon. Also, you are definitely not 5% bodyfat otherwise you'd be competing in shows. I would also encourage you to post a picture or buy a set of calipers to accurately determine your bodyfat percentage.

    Diet is the foundation to successful bodybuilding, no amount of steroid is going to revolutionize the way you look without proper nutrition. In my opinion, I'd spend a lot more time improving upon, and showing dedication to a better diet before cycling.
    I agree with windex 100%. I ran var before and I am currently running it now! There will be a point that you will not feel hungry but you need to feed the var.

    Based on your pic, I would definately stay at maint cals or slightly higher. Var is nothng without the diet bro!!!

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    My maintnance calories are 2100 on training days, 1850 on non-training days. (45/35/20, protein, carbs, fat?

    How many calories should I take while on Var to make some lean mass gains without gaining fat??

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    Quote Originally Posted by bjo2925 View Post
    My maintnance calories are 2100 on training days, 1850 on non-training days. (45/35/20, protein, carbs, fat?

    How many calories should I take while on Var to make some lean mass gains without gaining fat??
    to get an accurate idea you need to post up your macros in the diet section..

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    Quote Originally Posted by bjo2925 View Post
    My maintnance calories are 2100 on training days, 1850 on non-training days. (45/35/20, protein, carbs, fat?

    How many calories should I take while on Var to make some lean mass gains without gaining fat??
    Gaining fat is inevitable, the trick is gain mostly muscle with minimal fat. Also, your pic is small and we can't see your legs, but again you are not 5% Bodyfat - Close to 10-11% and abs are showing because of skinny frame and number is high due to lack of a lot of lean muscle mass.

    Post an in-depth breakdown of your diet, including times of meals, and Pro/Fat/Carb/Cal of each item & total of each meal in the diet section.

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    I will go to diet section and post my meal plan.

    About my BF, it's not me who says I'm 5%. It's a machine in the gym. :-)

    Thank you all very much!!!

    I'm not English native, sorry for my poor English..

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    Quote Originally Posted by bjo2925 View Post
    I´m almost 34 years old, work out since i´m 26. It´s my first cycle in several years.
    I´m 172 cm, 63 kg and 5% BF.

    I´m going to run it for 8 weeks, with 3 weeks of PCT.

    About the diet, in order to keep my BF this low, i never eat when i´m not hungry.. well, sometimes i even don´t eat when i´m hungry.
    I know.. that´s stupid!!

    I want to gain some pounds with minimum fat gain. More advices on diet, please!
    I think you have better options than var here, although the strength + hardness feeling on var is great but "minimum fat gain" has nothing to do with gear IMO. it's a great compound for cutting and dieting down.
    In my Experience Var is not as easy on liver as they say, I experienced lots of acnes and oily skin with it, don't get me wrong I love var and it's one of my favorites but for your purpose and at 5% body fat there are better and less expensive options out there!

    I would go for more test and would make it the main compound of my cycle, test propionate would be perfect with minimum sides + minimum water retention if your diet is correct.

    About diet generally you should calculate your maintenance calories and start with 400-500 additional calories daily, and it has nothing to do with your appetite.

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    Thanks, Mani!!

    I will also run test! 250mg weekly!!

    About Var.. I allready bought the gear.. and I´m really looking forward to use it.

    400-500 calories are a lot of calories.. will I not say goodbye to my abs??
    What do you mean when you say: "minimum fat gain" has nothing to do with gear IMO"

    I´ll try to post another pic of me for those who don´t believe in my 5% :-)

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    click on the picture to see it bigger!! It´s much more clear than the other one I posted..

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    Quote Originally Posted by bjo2925 View Post
    Thanks, Mani!!

    I will also run test! 250mg weekly!!

    About Var.. I allready bought the gear.. and I´m really looking forward to use it.

    400-500 calories are a lot of calories.. will I not say goodbye to my abs??
    What do you mean when you say: "minimum fat gain" has nothing to do with gear IMO"

    I´ll try to post another pic of me for those who don´t believe in my 5% :-)

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    It all depends on your metabolism for me it's not a lot, I'm on the 8th day of my lean muscle gain cycle right now and I've been eating +400 calories and I have visible six packs plus lots of vascularity and I didn't made much weight gain yet (about 1lbs) so I'm planning to increase it to about +700! (I'm using test prop + primobolan depot) you can start with less calories and monitor your body and increase it as you go on.

    About gear I meant there is no steroid out there that would make you fat if that's the reason you choose anavar . so you can choose anything and still have minimum fat gain. it all comes down to your diet, it's super important!
    about anavar you can save it for a cutting cycle later but If you made your decision already, then go for it.

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    i am a new member and i have never used riods, but i am think of using anavar . for what i read its what i want but i am not sure so please help! i am 21 i am 6'1 230 i am a big bulky guy. most of my fat is in my gut, i need help on yalls phases and what kind of dose i should use!!! and any other suggestions you have!!!!

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    I wil raise 400 calories a day and go from there!!

    About the gear, I´m glad you clear that out, I understood tou were saying the opposite. Has safety is one of my biggest concerns, my first choice was Primo + Test, but then I went to Var.. Probably not the best choice..

    Bull, I think you are in the right place to post you´re questions.
    My suggestion is that you throw some test in it, not much, but some, 250 weekly. I´m planning on a low dose of Var for me, 40 mg. Since it´s you´re first cycle, I suppose you should not do more than that.

    But has you can see, there are a lot of guys here who know more about this subject than me, let´s hear them!!

    I read several studies on Var, It´s great to lose fat in general with emphasys for abdominal fat.

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    thats for the input bjo, but like i said i am totally new to this and i am not sure on what u meant by "test".. i no it is a prolly a very dumb ? but i am new. hahah

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    Test is abreviation for testosterone ,

    I really don´t want to sound like you´re father. But I suppose that it´s of crucial importance that you do a lot of research before running you´re cycle. Lots of questions in forums, search google docs on substances like testosterone or Anavar (there are good articles on both there), and lots of research on steroid websites (this is really the best one, for me..)

    Good luck!!

    Some more experienced advice should sound great, . Anyone?

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    Var doesn't really add shit but vascularity and strength IMO. Mass gains from var are virtually nil.

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    So, test should be a must, in your opinion?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bjo2925 View Post
    So, test should be a must, in your opinion?
    Uhh yeah, thats the male hormone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bulldogfan View Post
    i am a new member and i have never used riods, but i am think of using anavar. for what i read its what i want but i am not sure so please help! i am 21 i am 6'1 230 i am a big bulky guy. most of my fat is in my gut, i need help on yalls phases and what kind of dose i should use!!! and any other suggestions you have!!!!
    your 21? Steroids in 21 is dangerous IMO, make sure to read this first: http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...-2-years-later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mani_bono View Post
    your 21? Steroids in 21 is dangerous IMO, make sure to read this first: http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...-2-years-later.
    Steroids at any age is Dangerous. But being younger does make it worse. I should know.

    However, hormones were never ment to be ****ed with, so in reality. No age justifies the use of AAS, unless you are low on testosterone and you absolutely NEED it.

    But we dont care about that shit. We take juice for one reason. To make GAINS.

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