More sex stamina in bed from steroids??:/

[zuppah]

hi.. 21 years old..

doing my .. kinda first cycle...

test E: 500mg ew
tren E 200mg ew
deca D 300mg ew

and anadrol 100mg ED. done with it this week


so its 500 test 500 nand.

Im around 6 weeks in my cycle now.. and for like 3 week ago my endurance in bed started to get better and better... then i mean the time it takes before i get orgasm. me and my gf usually "come" at same time.. but after i started with steroids she is coming way faster then me,! its so ****ing annoying and it sux... is that normal??? should i higher my testosterone or lower my nandrolones to fix this or??? is it normal ?? how will it be when i get " off cycle"???

ps... i have no problems at getting a boner,, but i feel like im a little bit less hornyer then i was before..i use more time to get an erection -.-

thanks for answers

[DGK]

Well il be the first one to say it. your too young to be doing steroids . Your endocrine system is not fully matured yet and u could be doing more damage then good. I would stop your cycle and begin pct immediately. Or continue your course and risk never being able to get an erection again bc you have ****ed up your natty test forever. Good luck.

[bjpennnn]

Well il be the first one to say it. your too young to be doing steroids. Your endocrine system is not fully matured yet and u could be doing more damage then good. I would stop your cycle and begin pct immediately. Or continue your course and risk never being able to get an erection again bc you have ****ed up your natty test forever. Good luck.

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[Bonaparte]

That's a lot of gear...

[Ashop]

hi.. 21 years old..

doing my .. kinda first cycle...

test E: 500mg ew
tren E 200mg ew
deca D 300mg ew

and anadrol 100mg ED. done with it this week


so its 500 test 500 nand.

Im around 6 weeks in my cycle now.. and for like 3 week ago my endurance in bed started to get better and better... then i mean the time it takes before i get orgasm. me and my gf usually "come" at same time.. but after i started with steroids she is coming way faster then me,! its so ****ing annoying and it sux... is that normal??? should i higher my testosterone or lower my nandrolones to fix this or??? is it normal ?? how will it be when i get " off cycle"???

ps... i have no problems at getting a boner,, but i feel like im a little bit less hornyer then i was before..i use more time to get an erection -.-

thanks for answers

Your too young to be using AAS. You should take advantage of your own natural hormones while they are high. At 21 most sex issues shouldnt be a problem,,,maybe some premature ejaculation,,,but at 21 your ready to go again in 5 minutes.

[X83]

You're too young for steroids and Deca won't give you anymore stamina but it will give a limp dick. Your balls shut down after three or four weeks while on test which increases your stamina if you suffered from a premature ejaculation problem previously. Also your GF should be able to have multiple orgasms during sex, so what are you complaining about?

[bd50]

if you want your penis to work 100% the rest of your life,,, you should not be doing any cycles at your age..

research PCT and start one ASAP.

GOOD LUCK

[minimonster]

why are u bit**ing about that... keep f..n her she should cum multiple times

that is way too much gear for your first cycle bro

[ScotchGuard02]

I've read a number members in their early 20's with a limp dick because they screwed up a cycle. I hope you're not on of those guys.

[JimmySidewalk]

tren on first cycle, wow, and deca mixed in too, and "underage".
No need to cum at the same time. Give her multiple orgasms, wouldn't you want your girl to be satisfied ? Or maybe its a trade for you, i give you one orgasm, you give me one, i give you too, give 2 right back ?

[nothingabout]

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[lovbyts]

So let me get this straight, you are more concerned about your girlfriend coming to fast and you taking longer, more stamina during sex than you are about your cycle, working out and how it will effect you in other ways in the future? Good to know you have your priorities straight.

I have to agree with the others. To you, to soon, to much bad mix. With a cycle like that at your age I expect to hear a lot more from you in the near future in regards to sexual problems but I doubt it will have to do with BETTER stamina. LOL

[Dr Pepper]

In humans your Endocrine system is not fully functional until an average age of 25yrs, although the main development is up to around 21yrs it still fluctuates a little bit up to its fully functional age. There is a risk of permanently damaging your HPTA if you take AAS to young and you could end up with symptoms of andropause and HRT for life. Symptoms could be Limp dick, low libido, depression, low energy, low endurance, erection problems and many more but.......are these the types of symptoms you want to have in your 20's?. Believe me its hard to cope with these in your 40's yet alone in your prime of your life.

Posted by Marcus 30/11/2008

[zuppah]

i have no problems with limp dick etc.. always ready ... but prolly will happends some after cycle buty i got HCG and clomid for PCT...and im running the test E 2 weeks longer then the deca and tren . but longer sex enurance before you getting ur erection is normal on cycle?? will it go back to normal after cycle is done and my normal testosterone is gone upå again??

Btw My first cycle was anadrol only for 4 weeks. 100mg ED.... i had no problems with sex either before or after cycle....

[zuppah]

lol,, dont think she has multiple orgasms.. just one bit like me ,,. after she had it shes not ho0rney anymore and get dry but ive been with other girls and they sure look like get multiple orgasms or never get it but they loved it ,,, doesnt find so many peoples with so good endurance in bed then peoples on roid i guess. so it should be positive cus i thought its was more normal that girls where slower.. but not my girl -.-

btw also wonder about that ur steril on a cycle..? is that true? ive read peoples been pregnant even if the man was on roids... but has that something how far ur in a cycle,, what steroids u use etc? or is it just bullshit?

[Scottish-Muscle]

Take it from me bro, be careful with what you are doing. Alough I am not on aas or have used my endocrine system has been wrecked by prednisone (corticoid steroid ) and I've got all the problems associated with what people are saying... And trust me going from a very healthy sex life to sh1t one isn't good.

[zuppah]

hmm.. okay,, ill be careful witht that and have nice break after my cycle... did 4 months off periode after my first cycle.. so i think ill handle it
but is it just the testosterone which affect my time i need to get erection? cus i didnt noticed anything on anadrol only cycle.

[jtuner77]

This is all kinda NO NO. I was waiting to see everyone bitch about your age and to repeat why you are lasting longer is cause you are starting to get limp dick....just wait a few more weeks when you CAN'T even get it up!

[zuppah]

haha,, no ? as long as i got some test with it should happend... i can get a boner easyer then ever now... its just that i last so much longer which is the problem... only time i will have problems getting it up is at the pct period i guess..
but if it true what u say i could just adjust the testosterone a bit more up? cus test helps limp dick.. that why u dont run deca alone etc...

[Scottish-Muscle]

haha,, no ? as long as i got some test with it should happend... i can get a boner easyer then ever now... its just that i last so much longer which is the problem... only time i will have problems getting it up is at the pct period i guess..
but if it true what u say i could just adjust the testosterone a bit more up? cus test helps limp dick.. that why u dont run deca alone etc...

Imo you'll be fine, I know LOTS of people who are on a lot more then you and younger and recover fine even without pct, stupid yes but it stands to reason... Just make sure your doing things correct, as well as pct and seek advice here, even tho most are against you doing aas at this stage you already have so it's best to guide you in the right direction rather than just dismissing you and you making a mess of things.

Lasting longer is prob just down to high libido, I wouldn't worry... I wouldn't keep adding more test in etc, like when you come off cycle recover PROPERLY and don't go back on cycle just because you feel cack of poor libido etc as thats no use. Personally I'd say don't run oxy at 100mg I wouldn't say it's wise for anyone really at your age as that stuffs pretty lethal on the body. Stick with basics and in future add more in when you feel.

[The Polish Prince]

Imo you'll be fine, I know LOTS of people who are on a lot more then you and younger and recover fine even without pct

Wow... really? This is your advice? Please be more responsible with your replies.

Just make sure your doing things correct

He already screwed that up by starting too young...

[Scottish-Muscle]

Wow... really? This is your advice? Please be more responsible with your replies.



He already screwed that up by starting too young...

Lol u mad? really he most likely hasn't screwed anything up.
Whats your advice really? telling him off for being a bad boy using aas?

the guys already USED it, he is USING it and intends to keep on USING it. So giving him some advice is better than giving him sweet F all like your doing. I'd rather he was given advice on how to sort things out by giving him advice on how to cycle properly AND also telling him he will recover fine which he most likely will rather than sit badgering him saying no you've fked up thats it thats the end you've messed your whole life up. How the fk is that helpful?

If you take a look at a majority of bodybuilders they have all started young, including the pro's, you really need to stop being so naive and parroting everything you hear-say and look at the reality of the picture.

And ps that wasn't my advice thats just a bit of comfort. I adviced him to run a full pct and run things properly if you read what I said ffs, ontop of that I said earlier in my post about endo probs not related but agreeing with what others said, but again refer to what I've said on this post second para down. Have some sense. xxxx

[PK-V]

Libido can tilt to either side of the scale when on

[cyounger100]

hi.. 21 years old..

doing my .. kinda first cycle...

test E: 500mg ew
tren E 200mg ew
deca D 300mg ew

and anadrol 100mg ED. done with it this week


so its 500 test 500 nand.

Im around 6 weeks in my cycle now.. and for like 3 week ago my endurance in bed started to get better and better... then i mean the time it takes before i get orgasm. me and my gf usually "come" at same time.. but after i started with steroids she is coming way faster then me,! its so ****ing annoying and it sux... is that normal??? should i higher my testosterone or lower my nandrolones to fix this or??? is it normal ?? how will it be when i get " off cycle"???

ps... i have no problems at getting a boner,, but i feel like im a little bit less hornyer then i was before..i use more time to get an erection -.-

thanks for answers

i cannot for the life of me figure out y this would be a fckin problem you are shouldnt be cycling at your age plus this is way too much for a first cycle and just out of curosity what is your GF goin too say when your dik want get hard after this is done huh

[Windex]

If your lucky, you can still order Viagra or Cialis and have it arrive in time for PCT - hope she believes whatever excuse you have when you start popping them pre-happy time.

[turkishexpress]

What you're experiencing is normal. You should have stayed natural until you were a bit older like everyone says but no reason to beat a dead horse. Enjoy the ride and make sure you do your PCT to the T... Meanwhile try to get your girl to bring in some other girls into the sack. Tell her she ain't cutting it no more.

[InsaneInTheMembrane]

what everybody else said...

but if you're already knee deep, I'll give you one suggestion: your test dosage should exceed tren +deca ...

[Lemonada8]

Well... Buy some lube for her and a bite apple to strap on her mouth if shes complaining.. as for other stuff, yes you are young, and damn for a first cycle.. but seems to be going good.. so some basic checks

Are you doing HCG during your cycle? If not you need to 500iu 2x week then 1000iu first day of PCT
what is your planned PCT? you need nolva and clomid IMO. Esp for using tren and deca you need strong PCT!
do the test a week longer than the others, so ur off that last.

You can be having some de-sensitization due to higher amounts of the 19-nor version of DHT, which is less powerful than natural DHT at boners, as you can obivously see with the sides of limp dick. Can get it hard but still a softie, mainly due to the 19nor's DHT. Since you are still able to get a solid erection *im guessin* that its a sensitization problem. That can actually be attributed to higher DHT in ur system. One thing this does suggest is that the OP has a high level of 5-alpha reductase. So im guessing that he also has a full beard, and is relatively hairy. along with male pattern baldness in the family. *hey OP if im right can u reply / :-)
ALso, the progestins might *guess* be having some estrogen like effects on libido in a male (basically bad). I would go with a majority of the first and minority of the 2nd :P

No, its good that the 19-nors are higher than/equal to test because thats what you want to bind. You dont want to upregulate alot of AR receptors with test and the 19-nors and have them both bind which lowers the purity of the 19nor's binding whichs lowers their gains. The whole reason doing a 19nor is for their 'extra' benefit. And normally you have more progesterone in ur body, so when you cycle with test, progesterone also gets inhibited. Well if you are going to run a 19-nor, aka progestin, aka acts like a progesterone in the body where applicable, and can increase prolactin if estrogen is too high. Seems since he has a high 5-alpha reductase activity, and *hey OP are you taking a AI* and low aromatase activity. Also, Progesterone is known to regulate estrogen, and progestins mimic progesterone at certain receptors running the 19-nors at a higher dose than the test matches human physiology better which minimizes sides. Running too low or too high of a 19-nor will create menopause symptoms. Think of it, menopause is low estrogen (so if progesterone/progestin regulates estro) and you have low progesterone/progestins you actually have similar symptoms as low test/high estro which can be confusing because then you start a AI and it helps some *due to some of the sides were being enhanced by estro* but still there, then guys who run a higher 19-nor than test dont really have many problems nor sides. If stacked properly you should be able to do Test base, 19-nor, DHT deriv for a pretty advanced stack and with proper amounts you can minimize sides and use of AI's and etc. This can be achieved by listening to your own body and for faster, more noticable changes is to do Prop for a first cycle...

ok but now i am rambling lol, ive been meaning to write about that, but ive been procrastinating my masters project thats late but due wed but really the degree has nothing to do with my future... soo.. .lol hard for motivation :P
anyways i think i veered far away enough from the OP original topic...

If you want i can start a basic thread/or someone else can to discuss anything that i have said above in a topic wise discussion.

good luck play safe! and again, DO A GOOD PCT!!!!!! U need HCG!!!

[PK-V]

what everybody else said...

but if you're already knee deep, I'll give you one suggestion: your test dosage should exceed tren+deca...

broscience?

[zuppah]

Well... Buy some lube for her and a bite apple to strap on her mouth if shes complaining.. as for other stuff, yes you are young, and damn for a first cycle.. but seems to be going good.. so some basic checks

Are you doing HCG during your cycle? If not you need to 500iu 2x week then 1000iu first day of PCT
what is your planned PCT? you need nolva and clomid IMO. Esp for using tren and deca you need strong PCT!
do the test a week longer than the others, so ur off that last.

You can be having some de-sensitization due to higher amounts of the 19-nor version of DHT, which is less powerful than natural DHT at boners, as you can obivously see with the sides of limp dick. Can get it hard but still a softie, mainly due to the 19nor's DHT. Since you are still able to get a solid erection *im guessin* that its a sensitization problem. That can actually be attributed to higher DHT in ur system. One thing this does suggest is that the OP has a high level of 5-alpha reductase. So im guessing that he also has a full beard, and is relatively hairy. along with male pattern baldness in the family. *hey OP if im right can u reply / :-)
ALso, the progestins might *guess* be having some estrogen like effects on libido in a male (basically bad). I would go with a majority of the first and minority of the 2nd :P

No, its good that the 19-nors are higher than/equal to test because thats what you want to bind. You dont want to upregulate alot of AR receptors with test and the 19-nors and have them both bind which lowers the purity of the 19nor's binding whichs lowers their gains. The whole reason doing a 19nor is for their 'extra' benefit. And normally you have more progesterone in ur body, so when you cycle with test, progesterone also gets inhibited. Well if you are going to run a 19-nor, aka progestin, aka acts like a progesterone in the body where applicable, and can increase prolactin if estrogen is too high. Seems since he has a high 5-alpha reductase activity, and *hey OP are you taking a AI* and low aromatase activity. Also, Progesterone is known to regulate estrogen, and progestins mimic progesterone at certain receptors running the 19-nors at a higher dose than the test matches human physiology better which minimizes sides. Running too low or too high of a 19-nor will create menopause symptoms. Think of it, menopause is low estrogen (so if progesterone/progestin regulates estro) and you have low progesterone/progestins you actually have similar symptoms as low test/high estro which can be confusing because then you start a AI and it helps some *due to some of the sides were being enhanced by estro* but still there, then guys who run a higher 19-nor than test dont really have many problems nor sides. If stacked properly you should be able to do Test base, 19-nor, DHT deriv for a pretty advanced stack and with proper amounts you can minimize sides and use of AI's and etc. This can be achieved by listening to your own body and for faster, more noticable changes is to do Prop for a first cycle...

ok but now i am rambling lol, ive been meaning to write about that, but ive been procrastinating my masters project thats late but due wed but really the degree has nothing to do with my future... soo.. .lol hard for motivation :P
anyways i think i veered far away enough from the OP original topic...

If you want i can start a basic thread/or someone else can to discuss anything that i have said above in a topic wise discussion.

good luck play safe! and again, DO A GOOD PCT!!!!!! U need HCG!!!

- got pct nolva and clomid. i use HCG like you say. and im running test 2 weeks longer.
- its my second cycle) had no side effects that ive noticed ,, just that i might be a bit more angry for stuffs.. but i know what cause it so i stay calm . no problem.
- i also did blood test ( testing liver, hormones, kidnet , blood preasure and all others... did it before cycle.. and did a new blood test last week middle of cycle...
- Anadrol was just used as a " kick start" and i use/ used milk thristle to helpo the liver.. i also use udos choice and good oils which also might help liver.. but its good for you anyways
- i also controll my use ,, i have 3 months breaks after each cycles. like many ive seen doing roids all time with quite few breaks ... my first litte 4 weaks cycle i waited 4 months with aftyer i was done before starting this cycle wich will be my second cycle-- or kinda first "real cycle" ... the first one i kinda just jumped into :/ but went great and got sweet results with no sides... ..
- anyways i wonder... side effects that might come long time after,., is that true??? if youre blood tests show fine after ur pct and stuff,.,, you cant get side effects later in youre life if you stop us9ing steroids ... or will there always be a chance of there might come side effects?? what side effects are we talking about if its true?...

[Lemonada8]

well one effect thats getting popularity is the fact that normal test range is huge. In another thread a guy has low natural production, and other normal people can produce 3x his amount. you can recover, but not to the level of natural u started with.
cardiac effects are long pronounced, but 'healthful' lifestyle helps offset that.

[Donjuice]

Just my opinion.... 21yr old...on juice and tapping about hard ons .
At 21 im assuming most men had the stamna of a race horse, & hard ons That awoke from the vibration of a bumb in the road.
I agree with most here.
Work out harder, eat more protien & aquire 2 more females son !

[zuppah]

why people whine about problems getting it hard... its no problem getting it hard i just whined about my endurance in bed before i get an erection/orgasm is about dubble time as usual.. but that was just perfectly normal while on juice ive understood now... so please stop aabout the boner shit -.-
-- and yehj i got viagra for pct if thast should be any problems.. but i diidnt noticed anything in my first cycle so i guess it will go fine..

[cyounger100]

why people whine about problems getting it hard... its no problem getting it hard i just whined about my endurance in bed before i get an erection/orgasm is about dubble time as usual.. but that was just perfectly normal while on juice ive understood now... so please stop aabout the boner shit -.-
-- and yehj i got viagra for pct if thast should be any problems.. but i diidnt noticed anything in my first cycle so i guess it will go fine..

were not whining bout it you will be whining about it when this cycle is over you are too young too b cycling as you will find out

[DGK]

Yeah u have no problems now while ur pumping testosterone into ur body, wait till ur off and ur dick wont work. Then u will be whining.

[zuppah]

im so young it will still work great my last cycle i diidnt even notice my dick was slower after cycle

[Lemonada8]

i thought this was ur first cycle?

anyways good luck for recovery

[RoidReaper]

if you want your penis to work 100% the rest of your life,,, you should not be doing any cycles at your age..

research PCT and start one ASAP.

GOOD LUCK

Ok come on now dude, seriously? I know the kid is too young but instead of trying to scare the piss out of him, why not try helping him instead because we all know hes gonna do it anyways. I should know, i was one of those kids.

And to be frank, all of us juicers are going to end up on TRT sooner or later. Because idc how many god damn PCTs you run, your still f*cking with your bodys hormones.

See this is MY POV. Why cycle? Whats the point? Either dont juice, or stay on it.

Reasons:

1.Whats the point in f*cking your bodys hormones up.. then trying to repair them and losing gains in the process.. And then a few months later after everything is normal, go back and screw them up again?

2. Say your at your genetic limit, you push past it with gear, then you come off.. If you stay off.. YOU WILL AND I REPEAT YOU WILL SHRINK BACK DOWN TO YOUR GENETIC LIMIT NO MATTER WHAT. So if you wanna stay past your genetic limit, then your best bet is to stay on blast and cruise. Thats why PROS dont ever come off because they cant, theyll lose absolutely everything they worked for.

And i know EVERYONE here isnt an innocent juicer, im sure plenty of guys here started probably younger than 21. I know I did, i wish i didnt because i would have liked to see where i could have gotten naturally. However i do not have these severe problems that everyone keeps boasting about. My dick works just fine and im healthy as a horse.

Fact of the matter is, NO AGE Justifies messing with your bodies hormones. They were never ment to be f*cked with. PERIOD

[Machinek69]

reading through the post if appears as though you have this under control . Test should exceed deca and tren . Deca is not a beginning as. especialy at your age. I would consider reading about SlingShot cycleing and starting your "first" with only test.
When you get off cycle you may need some viagra. and pct pct pct pct pct pct.

[Tigershark]

Oh boy.