What's a good lean bulk cycle?

**dk350** · 06-02-2011, 09:02 PM

I'm planning on doing my first stacked cycle in the near futrure and am looking for some good lean bulk cycle suggestions (prefferably a cycle not to exteme on HPTA shutdown or really bad water retention). I'm 6 feet tall weighing in at 190 with 13% bf. I'm looking at tbol/test, any suggestions?

**Floydian** · 06-02-2011, 09:11 PM

I recommend test prop and winstol

**38jumper38** · 06-02-2011, 09:13 PM

Originally Posted by Floydian

I recommend test prop and winstol

So, you recommend a kid at 18 years of age to do test and winstrol ? What's wrong with you?

**dk350** · 06-02-2011, 09:20 PM

Yea I'm 18 years old right now, but I'm just being smart and getting all the info I can on cycles and PCT so I can start When I'm at least 21.

**38jumper38** · 06-02-2011, 09:31 PM

Originally Posted by dk350

Yea I'm 18 years old right now, but I'm just being smart and getting all the info I can on cycles and PCT so I can start When I'm at least 21.

Sure.

**Dr Pepper** · 06-02-2011, 09:34 PM

21 is still to young! But I don't believe ur evengoing to waitfor that

In humans your Endocrine system is not fully functional until an average age of 25yrs, although the main development is up to around 21yrs it still fluctuates a little bit up to its fully functional age. There is a risk of permanently damaging your HPTA if you take AAS to young and you could end up with symptoms of andropause and HRT for life. Symptoms could be Limp dick, low libido, depression, low energy, low endurance, erection problems and many more but.......are these the types of symptoms you want to have in your 20's?. Believe me its hard to cope with these in your 40's yet alone in your prime of your life.

Posted by Marcus 30/11/2008

**dk350** · 06-02-2011, 09:49 PM

good advice, I plan on staying natural and using the free testosterone that I already have when I'm young. But, I thought by age 21 the hormone system will be at its full potential.

**songdog** · 06-02-2011, 10:33 PM

this place is gettin crazy.Outta here

**blainer** · 06-02-2011, 10:59 PM

Man my best friend started cycling in college when he was 19 and I started when I was 23. We are both 29 now and he suffers from major depression issues, constantly battling gyno, and a few other problems that are known to be associated with starting at too young of an age. I am not telling anyone what to do but it is worth your long term health to wait a few more years. I did a lot of research before I ever touched a needle and pushed myself to the point naturally that I was curtain that I wouldn't be able to surpass without synthetics. Too many people use juice as a short cut instead of putting in the hard work up front and using it to break that plateau. Push yourself for a few more years naturally first and eat correct then when you know you are at your peak naturally then go to the next level with the help of anabolics. Just my two cents on the subject but my experience tells me that if you want it too bad the short term bennies seem to blind you from the long term outlook. A wise friend once told me that the youth is wasted on the young. lol.

**awms** · 06-03-2011, 12:09 AM

500mg test week 1-12
100mg var week 1-6
a-dex .5mg a day

**27300man** · 06-03-2011, 12:12 AM

I to think your too young. But, if your gonna do it, then your gonna do it. Don't ask questions here at your age, you'll get flamed. Just utilize the search bar to the fullest! Good Luck

**Donjuice** · 06-03-2011, 12:31 AM

No such thing as a " lean bulk cycle ".
IMO

**markiejw** · 06-03-2011, 12:47 AM

Originally Posted by Donjuice

No such thing as a " lean bulk cycle ".
IMO

Test, Deca , and Masteron ... boom! Lean.

But ya bro. You're pretty young. I know a couple people between 18-20 that are juicing I just hope their bodies can handle it. I know this 18 year old that did just one cycle of nothing but Test. He's been off his cycle for nearly 6 months now and I guess his balls aren't coming back down. He calls me every day asking for some kind of PCT. I just had to tell him maybe it's time to go to the doctor. Now that's some scary shit I couldn't even imagine going through.

I'd be willing to bet if you went and had some blood work done you'd see that your natural Testosterone is at a great level right now. If you bust out some proper training and diet you'll get great results and the best thing is, no sides! It's all natural. Then when you hit 23+ (most people will say 25, but whatever) you can start looking to cycle and make some monster gains.

**dk350** · 06-06-2011, 01:45 PM

Thanks alot for those who posted, good stuff.

**cantbetouched** · 06-06-2011, 02:49 PM

Diet..

**Turkish Juicer** · 03-19-2012, 01:28 AM

Originally Posted by Donjuice

No such thing as a " lean bulk cycle ".
IMO

Yes there is.

Formula is as shown below.

Choice of gear + clean diet + cardio.

AD · 03-19-2012, 03:31 AM

Originally Posted by Turkish Juicer

Yes there is.

Formula is as shown below.

Choice of gear + clean diet + cardio.

agree

to op, all AAS causes HPTA shutdown. the younger you are, the worse will be your long-term effects

**ScotchGuard02** · 03-19-2012, 08:23 AM

There's a lot of collective wisdom on the forum. If the vets chime in I'm sure they'll warn you to stay away from cycling at your age. My buddy from childhood who's a renown physician tells me that the human brain doesn't even finish developing until one is about 25 yo. The human endocrine system fully matures by about the same age. I don't think there is a coincidence, I think the two are related. Young people who cycle shouldn't only worry about their units not working because you can take viagra, get penal implants, etc. When your endocrine system gets thrown off you could suffer tremendous depression. Imagine waking up everyday to a without hope. All the sunshine in the world can't remove the gloom of your life. It's such a high price to pay for some muscles. Be safe bro. listen to the council of those that's already gone through this, don't cycle until you're 25.