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    Chizzled is offline Junior Member
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    Starting first cycle 6/13!! Pumped up bros

    First AAS Cycle
    WK 1 - 10 Prop 150mg EOD ( 8-11 weeks, will go until gains come to a halt )
    WK 1 -6 Tbol 60mg ED ( I am not taking liv support )
    WK 1- 10 Stane 12.5mg EOD

    PCT ( 3 days after last inj ) -
    Nolva 40/20/20/20
    Tore 120/60/60/60

    Diet - Increasing cal intake by 300-400 calories

    Stats -
    Age - 24
    Height - 6 "
    Weight - 207
    BF % - 12%
    Cycle Exp - None

    Will post up my workout routine in a bit.

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    Tomarrow is the day! Any last miute suggestions?

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    I would say you do not need to run 150mg eod for first cycle 100mg eod will do plenty of test prop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bjpennnn View Post
    I would say you do not need to run 150mg eod for first cycle 100mg eod will do plenty of test prop.
    You dont think I would gain more off 150mg vs 100mg? Hmm 100mg just seemed low from what I have read.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chizzled View Post
    You dont think I would gain more off 150mg vs 100mg? Hmm 100mg just seemed low from what I have read.
    You need HCG and there's no reason to take Tbol. Your diet is going to determine your gains, not how much juice you take. 100 mg EOD is more than enough for a first cycle to assess how your body reacts to high amounts of synthetic Testosterone .'
    IMO:
    - Remove Tbol completely
    - Drop to 100mg EOD of Prop
    - Stick to 8 Weeks of Prop, you need to decide now when you are going to finish your cycle
    - Run HCG throughout your cycle (this is not optional if you value not damaging your body for the rest of your life)
    - Add an extra week of PCT

    And why do you say last minute suggestions ? You speak as if you need to start cycling tomorrow - why not continue researching and start the following week ? This is steroids your taking not candy, it isn't a game or joke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Windex View Post
    You need HCG and there's no reason to take Tbol. Your diet is going to determine your gains, not how much juice you take. 100 mg EOD is more than enough for a first cycle to assess how your body reacts to high amounts of synthetic Testosterone .'
    IMO:
    - Remove Tbol completely
    - Drop to 100mg EOD of Prop
    - Stick to 8 Weeks of Prop, you need to decide now when you are going to finish your cycle
    - Run HCG throughout your cycle (this is not optional if you value not damaging your body for the rest of your life)
    - Add an extra week of PCT

    And why do you say last minute suggestions ? You speak as if you need to start cycling tomorrow - why not continue researching and start the following week ? This is steroids your taking not candy, it isn't a game or joke.
    x2

    Drop the tbol, TEST ONLY first cycle.

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    I would go with ED shots of prop. More stable blood levels.

    HCG thru cycle at 500 iu 2x week then 1st day pct 1000iu

    pct looks fine esp if u add HCG

    save the stane untill u have issues. chances are w/ prop u wont have issues, esp with 50mg ed
    Last edited by Lemonada8; 06-11-2011 at 11:30 PM.

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    Could understand the t-Bol if u where running a long ester test, to jump start the cycle until the long ester kicks in. U are running a short ester so there is no need for the t-Bol. Start your cycle at 100mgs and see how your body reacts to it. If you can handle the 100 Mg dose with no sides then bump up to 150. Also I agree with above posts about the hcg .

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    ^ why would you want to bump it if you didnt have sides?

    bump from 100 to 150?

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    Thanks for all the responses everyone. I will take your advice and start with prop only at 100mg EOD and see how it goes.

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    Pinning prop ED or EOD will make you never want to do another cycle again after about 2 weeks. The pain that comes with prop SUCKS!!! Then adding the ED or EOD requires multiple pinning areas, you'll be sore all over your body. I suggest trying Test E or C for a first cycle. Then you can get used to the pain associated with pinning. Just my 2 cents, I recently ran a prop cycle with ED pins and I dreaded it after 2 weeks.

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