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    Thumbs up First time user

    okay im 22, 6 foot, solid 180. ive been lifting for a few years, but one year now serious, im low body fat maybe 10 to 12 %, for some reason i cant put on mass and im looking for a cycle to put me up to a solid 200lb's in the neext 6 months, i eat well and dont miss a day lifting, im not looking to take orals because of bad liver family history, does anyone have suggestions for me to obtain my 200lb goal the best a healthiest way. im a baseball player (pitcher) and im really trying to put alot of weight in my legs, i have veryyyy thin legs and have much room for mass. any suggestions are appreciated

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    evryone for the most part is going to tell you...

    TOO YOUNG

    come back in 3 years.

    My advice use the search tool and educate yourself.

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    Too young dude. When your 25, and have more experience under your belt, come back. Also, not for nothing...but at 6ft, you should definitely be able to get to 200 lbs without juice. You prob will not listen to us anyways, but just remember. If you start juicing now, before your fully developed...you will only be hurting yourself in the long run, and screw up your body's natural Test production. Do you really want to to be on viagra at 28 because you cant get your dick hard, and or have male pattern balding along a with some other possible sides. WAIT OFF, its not worth it yet, just lift naturally.

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    I'm not gonna tell you you're too young. I'm not 25 and I have alot of cycle experience. I do acknowledge that I started too young though. What I am going to tell you is at 6' and 180, you aren't ready. Another thing I'm going to tell you is that I don't condone AAS use for athletes in competitive sports (only because it's against the rules like tarring a baseball, I think the game would be better if they were allowed but that's off topic). You say you have skinny legs. What does your leg workout look like? Some of the things that have vastly increased my leg size are squats, leg press, and sprints. For squats, I rotate 5 sets of 5 reps, 4 sets 10 reps, and 4 sets of 20 reps every month or so.

    Bottom line, the healthiest way to get to 200lbs is to eat healthy and work out properly. If you are dead set on AAS, do some research and post up a sample cycle with pct and we can critique it.

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    The reason why you can't gain more mass is because your diet isnt adequate enough to support new tissue. You really need to go to the diet section and post your diet and ask for help to get it re-designed to suit your goals. If you can't gain weight and mass at your age then taking steroids will not be of any benefit to you, you will lose all gains after the cycle anyway because your diet wont support any new tissue.

    Your also to young and you shouldn't be taking steroids, you hormonal system hasn't fully developed yet and by shutting it down before its reach full maturity you can run the risk of it never reaching its peak and you suffering with low test, this would make you lose further mass and weight and be counterproductive to your goals, be educated and start looking how to eat to grow for the next couple of yrs and also change around your training routine, even though you may be training many have no idea how to train to build.

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    thank you for the suggestions, basically i have til march to put on the weight for my senior year of college because i need ot throw harder is i want to go anywhere, so i was looking to put the weight on in the next 9 to 10 months, i guess i just have to start eating like a cow and going insane in the gym if i want to do it naturally, its just finding the time to do all that is hard so i figured a would jump start with a a cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by B-rad099 View Post
    thank you for the suggestions, basically i have til march to put on the weight for my senior year of college because i need ot throw harder is i want to go anywhere, so i was looking to put the weight on in the next 9 to 10 months, i guess i just have to start eating like a cow and going insane in the gym if i want to do it naturally, its just finding the time to do all that is hard so i figured a would jump start with a a cycle.
    Its not worth it, you need to learn how to eat and maintain tissue, even if you did a cycle you would lose all gains because your diet doesnt support any new tissue. You can reach your goal by adjusting your diet and training, go to these sections and post what your doing now and what your goals are, best of luck

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    i cant find where to post that information, every forum on here is about steroids , so does anyone have a ny suggestins of what i should be eating to gain between 10 and 20 pounds inside of 10 months naturally? or if anyone could point me in the right direction of a place with that type of information. i honestly just think i have bad genetics because i eat alot, i eat a ton of protein and and grilled chicken and bvegatables and fruit and water daily, and i lift pretty hard and i seem to be stuck in place at 180 so any suggestions would help

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    20 lbs in 10 months is easily attainable naturally (2 lbs per month) at your age. You just need to eat right and train properly. If you are hitting the weights everyday, you could be overtraining and not allowing your body and CNS to recover properly which will affect muscle gains. Rest and recovery is just as important as diet and training. Re-evaluate your diet and training and you can get the results you need. All the information is located on this forum you just need to find it. Good luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by B-rad099 View Post
    i cant find where to post that information, every forum on here is about steroids, so does anyone have a ny suggestins of what i should be eating to gain between 10 and 20 pounds inside of 10 months naturally? or if anyone could point me in the right direction of a place with that type of information. i honestly just think i have bad genetics because i eat alot, i eat a ton of protein and and grilled chicken and bvegatables and fruit and water daily, and i lift pretty hard and i seem to be stuck in place at 180 so any suggestions would help
    Not all forums is about aas. Go out to the main forum page. Scroll down towards the bottom and there is a diet forum and a workout forum. Start a thread and include your diet in the thread and have someone critique it for you. Someone will be more than helpful to get you where you need to go. You need to find out how many calories your body needs for maitenance (BMR). A quick calculation is to take your body weight and multipy it by 15. For gaining muscle, you need to eat no less than 500 additional calories per day to gain muscle.

    http://www.precisionnutrition.com/members/calc.php
    Last edited by lc1213; 06-08-2011 at 11:53 AM.

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    Another thought as well. Check out other forums. While there are some smart members here this is a body building forum. So instead of researching here how to gain 20 lbs of muscle through body building techniques it will be different than what a strength and conditioning program that you should already be doing anyway. (for example, you probably dont need to do 3x10 curls, and skull crushers)

    Like others have said. You most likely weigh 180 lbs because you eat for 180 lbs. I would start tracking what you eat. Fitday.com is a good one I use. Do this for 1 week. Then the next week add 1,000 a day. Squat, dead lift, and press heavy every week/ clean and jerk, and whatever conditioning you need for your sport.

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    Quote Originally Posted by B-rad099 View Post
    thank you for the suggestions, basically i have til march to put on the weight for my senior year of college because i need ot throw harder is i want to go anywhere, so i was looking to put the weight on in the next 9 to 10 months, i guess i just have to start eating like a cow and going insane in the gym if i want to do it naturally, its just finding the time to do all that is hard so i figured a would jump start with a a cycle.
    How is your pitching technique? I assume you have a pitching coach. What's your 4-seam FB speed? 2-seam? And how is your accuracy? Aside from that, eat more and train hard.

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    My fastball sits at 86-89 and i have good control, i can generate more volocity with a stronger base to drive off the mound with, i have a very active schedule that keeps my metabolism flying so its hard to keep weight on, a pitchers conditioning is crazy. but i guess i just need to start really shoveling in now through march and keep lifting and hopefully i can naturally get to my goal. but if im not putting weight on by january im going to have to make moves in another direction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by B-rad099 View Post
    My fastball sits at 86-89 and i have good control, i can generate more volocity with a stronger base to drive off the mound with, i have a very active schedule that keeps my metabolism flying so its hard to keep weight on, a pitchers conditioning is crazy. but i guess i just need to start really shoveling in now through march and keep lifting and hopefully i can naturally get to my goal. but if im not putting weight on by january im going to have to make moves in another direction.
    86-89 isn't that bad for a four-seam. Granted you're going to have to paint the black every time to be effective with that, but you say your control is good. Just look at what Greg Maddux did with a fast ball like that. You're going to need to eat more though. How crazy can a pitcher's conditioning be though? I'm thinking of people like Broxton who are pretty ****ing big who pitch.

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