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    okay im 22, 6 foot, solid 180. ive been lifting for a few years, but one year now serious, im low body fat maybe 10 to 12 %, for some reason i cant put on mass and im looking for a cycle to put me up to a solid 200lb's in the neext 6 months, i eat well and dont miss a day lifting, im not looking to take orals because of bad liver family history, does anyone have suggestions for me to obtain my 200lb goal the best a healthiest way. im a baseball player (pitcher) and im really trying to put alot of weight in my legs, i have veryyyy thin legs and have much room for mass. any suggestions are appreciated .

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    i would say ur still not experienced enough for a cycle. only 1 year serious training and 22 is still relativly young. 180lbs at your height isnt ur natty limit i would guess, u could easily hit a lean 200 with another years serious training. post ur diet in diet forum for critique, 75% of ur work in gaining weight is down to ur diet.

    if ur set on a cycle like most guys are then i would say stick to a single test compound. 500mg test per week and possible test prop 100mg EOD for first 4 weeks. make sure ur well aware of all the sides and how to PCT properly. have tamoxifen on hand but dont use it right away on first cycle. wait and see how u react first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by B-rad099 View Post
    okay im 22, 6 foot, solid 180. ive been lifting for a few years, but one year now serious, im low body fat maybe 10 to 12 %, for some reason i cant put on mass and im looking for a cycle to put me up to a solid 200lb's in the neext 6 months, i eat well and dont miss a day lifting, im not looking to take orals because of bad liver family history, does anyone have suggestions for me to obtain my 200lb goal the best a healthiest way. im a baseball player (pitcher) and im really trying to put alot of weight in my legs, i have veryyyy thin legs and have much room for mass. any suggestions are appreciated .
    At 6 feet, there's no excuse to not reach 200+ lbs naturally. Your diet is the problem, post it in the diet section and the members would be more than happy to help you improve it.

    I'm sorry but your not eating well, otherwise you would still be gaining weight.

    As well, without a proper diet you are wasting your money with steroids:

    This is because :

    (A) All the weight you will put on will be water weight and/or fat and
    (B) You will be right back to 180 lbs a month after your cycle because you can't eat properly.

    In addition, 1 year of serious training is nothing. Steroids have the capability to significantly speed up an increase in muscle mass, however they do not help with tendon and ligament tissue growth. You need a good 3 years of serious training experience to allow your tendons and ligaments to grow and heal. Your body will not be use to tacking on an additional 25-40 lbs so quickly on an exercise. Your muscles might be able to handle it, but your connective tissue won't and you will injure yourself. That mean's no baseball for up to an entire year.


    Finally, you are too young to be considering steroids. In men, hormone levels fluctuate significantly from the age of 12 to 25, and shutting down hormone levels prematurely will put you at risk for permanently damaging your body forever.

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    Your not ready for steroids , head over to the diet section and learn how to grow by foods for the next couple of yrs. You also need to learn how to train correctly because I can guarantee you dont with only 12 months under your belt, check out our workout section also and post your workout programme see if we can help you out..

    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...-a-first-cycle

    AGE
    In humans your Endocrine system is not fully functional until an average age of 25yrs, although the main development is up to around 21yrs it still fluctuates a little bit up to its fully functional age. There is a risk of permanently damaging your HPTA if you take AAS to young and you could end up with symptoms of andropause and HRT for life. Symptoms could be Limp dick, low libido, depression, low energy, low endurance, erection problems and many more but.......are these the types of symptoms you want to have in your 20's?. Believe me its hard to cope with these in your 40's yet alone in your prime of your life.

    Around this age your Testosterone levels are the highest they going to be in your life naturally, so use what you have and don't take the risk of damage, I am passionate about this because ive seen it many times with young kids wanting to looking like their heroes and they think the answer is in an injection/tablet.

    Taking AAS to young can also cause problems with development, one other main problem is premature sealing of your epiphyeal bone and the consequences mean that you wont grow as big as your genetics could allow you to, there is a test which can be done to see if your growth plates have sealed yet but the average age is around 21yrs old.



    TRAINING
    You need a few years of hard training under your belt before even considering taking any kind of anabolic support, people who jump on a cycle to soon without having some quality years under their belt usually results in injuries, it takes time to develop your connective tissue, tendons and nervous system to heavy overload training. Slowly getting your own system use to these kinds of extreme's will only help in muscle growth later on when you do decide to start taking AAS.

    Build a solid foundation for muscle tissue to grow and maintaining and development will be far greater than without it. Many younger guys will start cycling before they have reached their genetic potential which is crazy when a good solid diet and training program will be far beneficial and productive to muscle building.

    Workouts should be mainly focused on basic movements with a priority of over loading the muscle each and ever time you train, increasing your strength and ability to lift in proper form will help with building the foundation for future development


    DIET
    A lot of younger bodybuilders don't know how to eat. Researching and understanding how your own body responds will help you get to your natural limit, the right food at the right time and a full understanding of proteins,carbs, and fats will only help you succeed in achieving your natural goals. Keeping a diet diary will also help you understand the importance of macro, nutrients, calories and should help you see in which areas you could be going wrong in adding lean muscle tissue.

    No matter how much anabolic support you have it will be worthless without proper nutrition, food will help build and maintain your valued muscle weather its natural, cycling or in PCT. Adjusting your food intake and consuming muscle building foods coupled with a solid training program will help you achieve your natural limit and foundation before you start AAS use.

    This area is a huge problem with the younger guys and I can't express enough how important diet/food is when first starting out, post and pre training nutrition are very important and understanding how to load and feed the body will help push growth and create a very natural anabolic environment

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