Any PH's out that are essentially tbol?

**NattyGraham** · 06-12-2011, 01:23 AM

simple question...

Thanks

**cro** · 06-12-2011, 05:01 AM

h-drol ,

**Pac Man** · 06-12-2011, 12:09 PM

which is also manufactured as hemadrol and halodrol.
The original liquid gels are the best. It's good stuff.

**Bonaparte** · 06-12-2011, 06:01 PM

Originally Posted by Pac Man

which is also manufactured as hemadrol and halodrol.
The original liquid gels are the best. It's good stuff.

The original Halodrol-50 was a tab. Halodrol Liquigels was a test booster + arachodonic acid supp. Totally different thing.

**funkymonk** · 06-12-2011, 06:39 PM

4-chloro-17a-methyl-androst-1, 4-diene-3-17b-diol

**Pac Man** · 06-12-2011, 07:07 PM

I wouldn't say totally different, seeing how it still has the same basic ingredient being (4-chloro-17a-methyl-androst-1, 4-diene-3-17b-diol)
Just has 4 extra properties to it as well.

**ACE5HIGH** · 06-13-2011, 12:18 AM

Originally Posted by cro

h-drol ,

You beat me to it.

I've used both, they are very similar in effect.

**Bonaparte** · 06-14-2011, 01:20 AM

Originally Posted by Pac Man

I wouldn't say totally different, seeing how it still has the same basic ingredient being (4-chloro-17a-methyl-androst-1, 4-diene-3-17b-diol)
Just has 4 extra properties to it as well.

Liquigels do not contain the 4-chloro steroid .
They contain an AI, stinging nettle root, AA, and DHEA.

**cro** · 06-14-2011, 04:23 AM

h-drol from cell is an awesome product, and can still be bought.

**Swifto** · 06-14-2011, 01:50 PM

Originally Posted by cro

h-drol from cell is an awesome product, and can still be bought.

Agreed.

**cro** · 06-14-2011, 03:34 PM

if you chime back in on this what do you think a good pct would be from a 6 week cycle of hdrol only. 50/75/75/75/75/75

Originally Posted by Swifto

Agreed.

and do you recommend live 52 while on/ milk thistle? thanks bro not tring to thread steal ...lol

**Swifto** · 06-14-2011, 04:14 PM

Tamox 20mg/ED for 4-5 weeks. 4 weeks is fine.

I sustained a TT level of 540ng/dl on Tbol which is stronger on the HPTA at 60mg/ED.

Hdrol is very mild. I have bridged with it and also Tbol.

I will state that I MANAGED to do that and got BW done. I dont really suggest it to anyone without getting BW done like I did.

**cro** · 06-14-2011, 06:07 PM

thanks bro .

Originally Posted by Swifto

Tamox 20mg/ED for 4-5 weeks. 4 weeks is fine.

I sustained a TT level of 540ng/dl on Tbol which is stronger on the HPTA at 60mg/ED.

Hdrol is very mild. I have bridged with it and also Tbol.

I will state that I MANAGED to do that and got BW done. I dont really suggest it to anyone without getting BW done like I did.

**NattyGraham** · 06-14-2011, 07:14 PM

Originally Posted by cro

h-drol from cell is an awesome product, and can still be bought.

So ill still get about the same lean gains with out bloat and aromatization with hdrol like you could tbol? From what ive read on 50-60 mg a day, in 4 weeks you can get about 8-10 lean muscle gained from tbol.

Thanks!

**Bonaparte** · 06-14-2011, 08:06 PM

Originally Posted by NattyGraham

in 4 weeks you can get about 8-10 lean muscle gained from tbol.

That's impossible. No AAS will pack on actual muscle that fast.

**cro** · 06-15-2011, 04:00 AM

no you need to run hdrol for 6 weeks to maximize gains , and yes i realise on the bottle it says 4 week at 50 mg. you dont even notice until week 3. yes no bloat/aromtization.can make you tired but other than that i didnt notice any other sides.

**NattyGraham** · 06-15-2011, 11:57 PM

Ended up ordering 2 bottles of pmag as i couldn't get hdrol

pmag is 4-chloro-17a-methyl-andro-4-ene-3,17b-diol

hdrol is 4-chloro-17a-methyl-androst-1,4-diene-3-17b-diol

From what i read pmag is about the same as hrdol, just better suited for bulking...

Going to run 5-6 weeks, seeing how i respond and then PCT with nolva. Hopefully gain 6-8lbs