Oxy cycle...some experienced advice needed!

[Wobgnorts]

Hello there,

I am very new to all of this. I have just purchased 50x50mg oxy tablets. What kind of cycle(s) should I do with these?

My friend recently done a 4 week cycle with the same tablets and reported good results, but I know everyone is different so I am just looking for a range of opinions.

I have done A LOT of research on these things because I am pretty worried and I have read so many different things.

Also, my friend took milk thistle with these and claims they are 100% needed to protect the liver, howeve I have read mixed reviews regarding this as well.

[Wobgnorts]

Also, can I say, I know the term "good results" is subjective....what would be good results for me, may be very negligable to some of you haha

[10nispro]

Resluts will depend on ones diet more than the gear itself. personnally that cycle is stupid. Please slow down and do research and do it correct.. If you are going to cycle, pin!!!

[Wobgnorts]

My diet is pretty decent, and I also drink protein shakes and weight gainers. I have been going to the gym consistently for a couple of years but have really pushed up my routines in the last 3 months. I have a good shape about me, but I just want to bulk up more then tone it up, more for vanity than anything else if I am being totally honest (the whole Ibiza beach body thing).

Could you please specify why you think its stupid? I am looking for any kind of feed bad, critical or not!

I have done a lot of research, but it is still good and reassuring to get the advice of others.

I was thinking about doing a 3 week cycle, 1 tablet a day, maybe 2 on a couple of days towards the end.

Any advice, or criticism, is welcomed. The more detailed the better.

[Dr Pepper]

Oral only cycles are a waste IMO

What are your stats?

[10nispro]

I always run some sort of test even a low dose with var or tbol cycles. 4 weeks is just wasting your gear cause its just kicking in and you are ending it. You are better off eating real food than relying on protein shakes and weight gainers. So your diet seems to need tweeking.

[Wobgnorts]

I have enough tablets for a 7 week cycle, the reason I said 3 or 4 weeks was because I have a music festival coming up so thought it would be a good point at which to stop and take a break.

It's a 4 day festival, could I just start another cycle with the rest of the tablets after this?

I eat as much as I can (time wise and size wise), I just find the protein shakes etc are a good and easy addition.

RE stats; I am 5 foot 8, about 10.5 stone, 23 years old oh and Scottish haha

[10nispro]

If you are under 150lbs as you as say, dont do the cycle yet. You need to eat more. put up a one day diet to see whats up.

[Wobgnorts]

Ok I will post up what i eat tomorrow as it should be a standard day

I was out for meals the last couple of nights lol

Thanks

[Dr Pepper]

Mate you don't need steriods . You need a solid diet and to follow it strictly.

[flyingpoint001]

Hello there,

I am very new to all of this. I have just purchased 50x50mg oxy tablets. What kind of cycle(s) should I do with these?

My friend recently done a 4 week cycle with the same tablets and reported good results, but I know everyone is different so I am just looking for a range of opinions.

I have done A LOT of research on these things because I am pretty worried and I have read so many different things.

Also, my friend took milk thistle with these and claims they are 100% needed to protect the liver, howeve I have read mixed reviews regarding this as well.

i had a buddy who ran the same cycle don't make the same mistake he did.. do some more reading .. don't to orals alone .. especially not oxy

[Wobgnorts]

i had a buddy who ran the same cycle don't make the same mistake he did.. do some more reading .. don't to orals alone .. especially not oxy

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What was his mistake? Bad side effects or they just didn't work?

And when you say don't do alone do you mean alone from other steroids or do you mean alone from protective substances such as milkthistle?

[cro]

no hes telling you dont run anadrol alone with out test. people use anadrol like dbol to jump start a test e cycle so your not waiting 3 weeks to notice gains.

[ghettoboyd]

i wish you would have stated what the actual compound you are looking to run so we have a clue..there are a few aas that start with oxy in the name, anadrol and anavar so wich is it?...

[Wobgnorts]

Ok, so, today I ate:

Breakfast: Bowl of porridge and a banana, and a couple of slices of cracker bread with a light spreading of peanut butter

[GYM]

Snack after gym: Some peanuts and a protein shake

Lunch: Scrambled egg (2 eggs) with some green olives and a fruit corner yogurt

[WORK]

Snack: Ham salad sandwich brown bread

Dinner: Soya meat lasagne, roast potatoes and salad

so thats what i have ate so far and later before bed i will probably have a weight gainer shake and perhaps a brown homemade bread sandwich or crackerbread or something

Thats a kind of standard day...I dont know how I would eat more as I just dont have the time to fit in more meal times and cant stomach any more at each mealtime

It is a good diet as far as I am concerned, I am young, fit and healthy... I understand it is probably not strict enough for a real bodybuilding diet but thats not my intentions anyway...

I think some of the suggestions up there are far too serious for me...also, someone has said i dont "need" steroids ....no one really does do they? People essentially take them to cheat physical ability or to look good, so no one really needs them, nor should we really be taking them... but all I am after is a bit of a "cheat" way to look a bit better... I dont plan on entering competitions or anything or getting too big or ripped....I just want a good athletic build (soccer player-esque) with a decent muscle definition....

soo, I think i will just crack on with the gym and try these oxys...if they work they work, if they dont, I think I will just scrap the whole idea because I dont really fancy getting too in depth into it all lol

alsong as I am not going to kill myself or cause long term liver problems on a 4-7 week course?

[mani_bono]

Ok, so, today I ate:

Breakfast: Bowl of porridge and a banana, and a couple of slices of cracker bread with a light spreading of peanut butter

[GYM]

Snack after gym: Some peanuts and a protein shake

Lunch: Scrambled egg (2 eggs) with some green olives and a fruit corner yogurt

[WORK]

Snack: Ham salad sandwich brown bread

Dinner: Soya meat lasagne, roast potatoes and salad

so thats what i have ate so far and later before bed i will probably have a weight gainer shake and perhaps a brown homemade bread sandwich or crackerbread or something

Thats a kind of standard day...I dont know how I would eat more as I just dont have the time to fit in more meal times and cant stomach any more at each mealtime

It is a good diet as far as I am concerned, I am young, fit and healthy... I understand it is probably not strict enough for a real bodybuilding diet but thats not my intentions anyway...

I think some of the suggestions up there are far too serious for me...also, someone has said i dont "need" steroids ....no one really does do they? People essentially take them to cheat physical ability or to look good, so no one really needs them, nor should we really be taking them... but all I am after is a bit of a "cheat" way to look a bit better... I dont plan on entering competitions or anything or getting too big or ripped....I just want a good athletic build (soccer player-esque) with a decent muscle definition....

soo, I think i will just crack on with the gym and try these oxys...if they work they work, if they dont, I think I will just scrap the whole idea because I dont really fancy getting too in depth into it all lol

alsong as I am not going to kill myself or cause long term liver problems on a 4-7 week course?

Sorry, Your diet is horrible!
you need a bodybuilding diet or you will not make any progress. you want to get like Dorian Yates or you want a good athletic build and put on few pounds of muscle, you should follow the same strict diet it has nothing to do with your goals ...
you are wrong on so many levels so probably your training is bad as your diet and your thoughts on steroids.
Anadrol or oxymetholone (please learn the name correctly and stop calling it Oxy!) is not going to help you.
If you are going to take it anyway why are you asking for help here?

[Wobgnorts]

you need a bodybuilding diet or you will not make any progress

That is so untrue...I know plenty of people who have muscular builds and do not follow strict bodybuilding diets....Granted though, I believe our definitions of a muscular build may be differernt lol I think most of the guys on here are on a different level, aiming for dorian yates lol but it is just not true that you have to strictly follow a bodybuilding diet to have a muscular athletic build....soccer players do not follow bodybuilding diets and a lot of them have great muscular and toned frames.... I know these are not the bodies that would win bodybuilding competitions but again that is not what I am after...

I reckon I have came to the wrong place perhaps, I just thought I would ask for advice...I was mainly worried for health reasons, not if they didnt work...if they dont work I am not fussed.

Oh and my diet is not horrible lol its is normal, and healthy, which is reflected in my health and fitness!

Thanks anyway

[mani_bono]

you need a bodybuilding diet or you will not make any progress

That is so untrue...I know plenty of people who have muscular builds and do not follow strict bodybuilding diets....Granted though, I believe our definitions of a muscular build may be differernt lol I think most of the guys on here are on a different level, aiming for dorian yates lol but it is just not true that you have to strictly follow a bodybuilding diet to have a muscular athletic build....soccer players do not follow bodybuilding diets and a lot of them have great muscular and toned frames.... I know these are not the bodies that would win bodybuilding competitions but again that is not what I am after...

I reckon I have came to the wrong place perhaps, I just thought I would ask for advice...I was mainly worried for health reasons, not if they didnt work...if they dont work I am not fussed.

Oh and my diet is not horrible lol its is normal, and healthy, which is reflected in my health and fitness!

Thanks anyway

OK I give up! to answer your question it's not deadly but it will have some bad effects on your liver, since it's highly liver toxic but nothing that a healthy man can not recover from, try to get a blood work and make sure verything is fine in your body before starting the cycle. don't run it more than 6 week maximum.

you will get very strong and will gain like 6 kg mostly water retention and fluid and you will loose like 3 kg of it after one or two month in best case and the worst case is you will loose all of the weight you gained and will get depressed ...

[Wobgnorts]

Thanks mani

I have heard 1 tablet a day is like drinking half a bottle of whisky a day? which isnt great forever but I am sure people drink far more than that per day on a 2 week holiday...so should be able to recover! I will ask my doctor before I start them! Plus I might buy some milk thistle as it is hardly expensive so may as well, even though some people dont feel the need.

As for losing the gains quickly, I am just trying to get some gains to look good (perhaps "better" may be a more apt word as "good" is subjective lol) on a holiday which is coming up soon hence why time is of the essence lol so I dont mind losing the gains after the holiday :P after that I can either look into obtaining gains in a more patient natural way, or do more research on the issues of this site!

Thanks again!

[Wobgnorts]

Just thought I would pop back and give an update...so just approaching 3 weeks in the cycle and its going pretty decent...some noticeable gains and improved definition!

I have also lost a great bit of body fat around my ab area although I really cant say whether that is related to my cycle or not as my cardio activitiy has improved slightly in recent weeks (spin classes, hit classes, pre season training has also started)

Not ground breaking gains, most people would probably disregard them, but great for my aims and my starting point, and no side effects...all in all, not bad...it was definately worth a shot....i think after my holiday though I will try and play the long game, ditch the steroids and go au natural lol (easier said than done lol)

[buffgator]

Why do you say that you are worried about your health yet insist on doing an improper cycle? If you are truly taking anadrol it can shut down your natural test and unless you do a proper pct you'll end up smaller and weaker than when you started and you will have a weaker that probably won't get erect for a few months.

[Wobgnorts]

Buffgator

As per my previous post, I have experienced no side effects especially not in the erection department lol and I have been experiencing some good gains in my and my friends opinions

Will be visiting my doctor in the next couple of weeks to explain what I have been doing and get any necessary tests to be on the safe side

Very strange doom and gloom message from you considering my results and the results of others on the same cycle

As I have said before I am aware this cycle is not going to elevate me to any competitive standard or even to a standard that most people on here would even acknowledge, but it HAS given me results and has not caused any ill health

[gixxerboy1]

Buffgator

As per my previous post, I have experienced no side effects especially not in the erection department lol and I have been experiencing some good gains in my and my friends opinions

Will be visiting my doctor in the next couple of weeks to explain what I have been doing and get any necessary tests to be on the safe side

Very strange doom and gloom message from you considering my results and the results of others on the same cycle

As I have said before I am aware this cycle is not going to elevate me to any competitive standard or even to a standard that most people on here would even acknowledge, but it HAS given me results and has not caused any ill health

because with problems can come months after stopping your cycle.
If you actually researched you would know this.
Also good luck telling your Dr, and if you are screwed up good luck getting insurance to pay for it when they find out it was caused by illegal steroids or possibly have problems even getting insurance in the future once its in your file.
Yes your friend may have done it with no problems. My friend rides a wheelie on his bike to about 130 and has never crashed. So i guess its safe for me to do to

[Wobgnorts]

I struggle to comprehend how taking 1 50mg oxy a day for a 3-5 week cycle is going to cause me so much problems considering the amount others on these forums take and due to the fact that one of the issues people had with this cycle was that it wasn't enough and I should be stacking it with other steroids lol????

And I don't know what country your from but the laws of the UK mean that whatever I discuss with my private GP cannot affect anything outwith his office

I have experienced strength gains and toning gains

I will update with my doctors results/ opinions on possible long term damage

[ACE5HIGH]

Chances are your Dr. wont advise you correctly anyway. At the very least get a good PCT if your going to insist on running a terrible cycle. This way its only going to be all your progress, gains, and sanity you will loose when you finish rather than your Nads!