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    Exclamation Need advice on 2nd cycle

    Well I'm ready to go back on. Here's the aas I have the opportunity to obtain: 50ml of test prop at 100mg/ml, 50ml stanozolol oil based at 100mg/ml, 15ml test suspension at 50mg/ml, 200 tablets of dbol at 10mg per tab, 30 tabs of anadrol at 50mg per tab, 50ml tren ace at 100mg/ml, 30ml sust250 at 250mg/ml, 30ml tren enanthate at 300mg/ml, 20ml of anadrol oil based injectable which is new to me bc I thought it was strictly oral at 100mg/ml. 60ml anavar liquid oral at 25mg/ml.
    So obviously I ain't gonna take all these. For pct I have clomid,nolva,10000 ius of hcg.
    Other peptides are igf-1 lr3 and insulin(the short acting one) and 200 ius of hgh blue tops.
    My cycle history is a cycle of 500mg of test cyp per week for 14 weeks, 50-100 mg tren ace ed for 4 weeks from week 3-7 of the respective cycle of which I speak. Gains were amazing and really held up. Started cycle at 190lbs and 12% bf and ended at 219 at 14.8%bf but I was bulking so I didn't care. I used arimidex at periods of the cycle when water retention became unbearable. I also tore my pec major tendon at week 7 But kept lifting even after surgery. I am now fully healed.
    So for this cycle I am dead set on my test being prop bc of the lower incidence of water retention and aromatization. Now the question is tren or winstrol with the prop? Also would like to kick start with drol or dbol.
    My goals are lean mass and a hard cut look and extreme aggression so I can get a better job and do a little fighting/boxing.
    Ideally a testosterone,dht and 19-nor would hit all the angles but I don't want to strain the body too much. I already have a diet in check and am currently 225lbs at 14% bf but I don't wanna look like a skinny bitch. Also not really wanting to run igf or slin yet but am open to doing 2-3 ius 5 days a week of hgh for tendon and connective tissue repair and better energy levels without psychostimulants. Let me know what you guys think.
    My idea is this:
    Weeks 1-12 150mg test prop ed
    Weeks 1-8 100mg tren ace ed
    Weeks8-12 100mg winstrol ed
    Weeks 1-4 50mg dbol ed
    Weeks 1-25 2-3 ius hgh ed with 2 days off on non training days

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    One newb questions on the measurements. Does 50ml of test prop at 100mg/ml mean 50 vials with 100mg in each vial???

    Good luck on cycle brah

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    No it means you get either a 50 ml vial of test prop with a concentration of 100mg/ml so 1ml=100mg of test prop which is itself about 82mg of testosterone bc of the weight of the ester that's attached.

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    Test - Cypioante 250 - 250mg/ml 20ml/vial

    So this means 1ml = 250mg of test, is that correct? And 20 ml in the vial, so roughly 20 'pulls' with 250mg in each pull?

    Sorry don't mean to hijack your thread, just trying to figure it out lol

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    yes sir. depends on your dose how many pulls you get. so if your running cyp like I did first cycle you would do 1ml twice a week by injecting 1 ml on day 0 and then injecting 1ml 3.5-4 days later for a typical newbie dose of cyp of 500mg per week. You could also frontload your first pin at 2ml for 500mg/ml but I don't really think this gave me any benefit and you hear it here and there on boards and articles but personally I would not waste the gear to do it again. You just need to be patient when using a longer ester like cyp or enth and know that it may be 4-5 weeks before you fully start to realize gains.

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    Why are your doses so high? Doing tren on 2nd cycle? You are way over dosed bro.Grow into your dose.You grow in steps.Not all at once.

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    Quote Originally Posted by songdog View Post
    Why are your doses so high? Doing tren on 2nd cycle? You are way over dosed bro.Grow into your dose.You grow in steps.Not all at once.
    actually, he was already running up to 700mg of tren a/week during his first cycle...

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    a more accurate view of tren on my first cycle was a slow buildup over 2-3 weeks from 50mg ed then 75mg ed then 100mg ed then started messing with 150mg for a few days and bam pec tear... I was only on tren for a mere 4 weeks back in february

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    Quote Originally Posted by songdog View Post
    Why are your doses so high? Doing tren on 2nd cycle? You are way over dosed bro.Grow into your dose.You grow in steps.Not all at once.
    Agreed, it's too much.

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    you are using way more stuff then is needed.
    200iu of gh will do nothing
    thats just to start

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    225 isn't looking like a skinny bitch imo, and the aggression you either have or don't have.
    As mentioned, that's too much juice. EOD injections would be a little better.

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