test flu so off and on

[PitMaster]

I know some of the senior members are gonna shake there heads, some gonna say what a idiot especially after some of my posts. I took the plunge and started. I really don't have any friends I can talk to about this. The one friend I do have has no knowledge of AAS and would just be jealous. That's just by phone call let alone by seeing my body progess. I really didn't want anyone here to know. Just the same I want to be honest. Anyhow couple questions. I'm on 2nd shot of sust it's day 6. Seems like forever with the flu. (feels so close like opiate withdrawals to me). I'm getting all common symptoms. Part of the day I feel invincible my chronic pains not even evident. Does more for my pain than any opiate ever has.(Dr's please take note). workouts going well. Even when I felt so shi*ty I could barely walk. I went and laid on the bench, stared at the bar. Started moving that by itself. Started adding weight, still feeling like crap but bar was moving easy, and worked through it. Afterwards major crash, then few hours later, insomnia. Fargon legs everywhere. Next day wake up refreshed, feel awesome and then I get slammed wiht it again. Does this sound right, so up and down? Also I broke the top of 1 of my glass Amps and wasn't ready to use it. I scotch taped it and put in medicine cabinet. Is that good enough storage or is it bunked?

[Flier]

What´s your complete cycle and PCT?
Cycle history?
Your stats?
You on any meds?.... anxiety, depression, ADHD?

And no, your broken amp is no longer good, contaminated. (Meaning, most likely good, but how lucky do u feel?)

[gixxerboy1]

next time you brake an amp. pre load it in a syringe to you are ready

[PitMaster]

next time you brake an amp. pre load it in a syringe to you are ready

ty. I should of went with my gut instinct. I didn't feel comfortable asking u guys. I got issues , I know.

[PitMaster]

What´s your complete cycle and PCT?
Cycle history?
Your stats?
You on any meds?.... anxiety, depression, ADHD?

And no, your broken amp is no longer good, contaminated. (Meaning, most likely good, but how lucky do u feel?)

1st cycle.
38
5'7 160 lbs up from a very low 145(due to meds and eating a snack every 2 days)
BF% ? I keep getting differnt numbers, Never really ever calculated it, cuz I've never been fat. That was a dumb way of thinking for years.
I gotta go to a gym and see if they got some calipers and help me. Got a lil gut
EXP. training started at 17 was handed the encyclopedia modern bodybuilding. Arnie. I have decent training methods under my belt, always stuck with the basics and powermoves and still do. Training hasn't been consistent, I would hit it again during winter layoffs or in between layoffs from work(concrete man, construction). Too hard for me to do both, I go balls out working.(reason I got hurt)
No meds I stopped all even excederin(Nsaid). Dr. wanted to put me on suboxone program after I detoxed, cuz still having symptoms. I said I only want a weeks worth, not getting hooked on those two. So it's been 10+ days since I used anything. It was a small dose i'm pretty sure that's not why I'm sick. Took the subs, minimally and tapered down. I stopped it, before I cycled. Then was getting real sick so I waited couple days then finally take less than a 1/8 mg. seems like it helped the restlessness but not sure. cuz my body was so exhausted I finally slept.(I'm monitoring this and only take it.)
sust 250 twice a week 500mg per week for 10 but since I broke 1 amp I'm getting enough to go 12 wks. (Maybe eod next time) My test cycle
Nolva and clomid for pct run it 4 weeks. start 18 days after last shot. I should of read more first and got and A.I. for on hand and I still need L-dex for pct. Hcg coming just in case and I'll take that before pct starts. (Big fuc*ing no no not having everything, stress alone sucks. My bad.
My diet could be better, but no sugar, only simple sugars. I'm a salt freak so i've almost cut that out, still need a sprinkle on my meat. Minimal. protein goals are 250-300. I still gotta research diet. (Another mistake not having it as clean and like clockwork as you guys, but I'm watching my fat intake. 2500 to 3000 calories, is target for me.

[PitMaster]

I'm curious if maybe I figured something out. I realize getting test flu is from putting foreign substance in your body and your immune system trying to fight it thus putting you into withdrawals. suboxone for withdrawals, I know for opiates. I don't know the science on how it works in your body and if it may be linked somehow to help these withdrawals from test flu which have some same symptoms but not all. I have no runs, no stomach aches, can't tell wiht body aches, no fever. These come wiht opiate withdrawals, yet i'm leaning towards taking a minimum dose helps with test flu. My restlessness seems to subside after taking a small sub dose. But not sure if it's cuz I have reached exhaustion so this is up in the air.

[Flier]

1st cycle.
38
5'7 160 lbs up from a very low 145(due to meds and eating a snack every 2 days)
BF% ? I keep getting differnt numbers, Never really ever calculated it, cuz I've never been fat. That was a dumb way of thinking for years.
I gotta go to a gym and see if they got some calipers and help me. Got a lil gut
EXP. training started at 17 was handed the encyclopedia modern bodybuilding. Arnie. I have decent training methods under my belt, always stuck with the basics and powermoves and still do. Training hasn't been consistent, I would hit it again during winter layoffs or in between layoffs from work(concrete man, construction). Too hard for me to do both, I go balls out working.(reason I got hurt)
No meds I stopped all even excederin(Nsaid). Dr. wanted to put me on suboxone program after I detoxed, cuz still having symptoms. I said I only want a weeks worth, not getting hooked on those two. So it's been 10+ days since I used anything. It was a small dose i'm pretty sure that's not why I'm sick. Took the subs, minimally and tapered down. I stopped it, before I cycled. Then was getting real sick so I waited couple days then finally take less than a 1/8 mg. seems like it helped the restlessness but not sure. cuz my body was so exhausted I finally slept.(I'm monitoring this and only take it.)
sust 250 twice a week 500mg per week . (Maybe eod next time) My test cycle
Nolva and clomid for pct run it 4 weeks. start 18 days after last shot. I should of read more first and got and A.I. for on hand and I still need L-dex for pct. Hcg coming just in case and I'll take that before pct starts. (Big fuc*ing no no not having everything, stress alone sucks. My bad.
My diet could be better, but no sugar, only simple sugars. I'm a salt freak so i've almost cut that out, still need a sprinkle on my meat. Minimal. protein goals are 250-300. I still gotta research diet. (Another mistake not having it as clean and like clockwork as you guys, but I'm watching my fat intake. 2500 to 3000 calories, is target for me.

Hmmm..
So I´m getting you´re an addict. Cocaine, or maybe Heroin?
I am very happy for u that u have successfully completed detox. I know how hard it is.
And I have several good childhood friends 6' under, took the easy way out.

From your post I think u are a very poor candidate for an AAS cycle.
Number 1, u just detoxed. U are having withdrawals, even if you don´t know it. U carry a lot of baggage in your subconscious right now, and Test will amplify and surface this "baggage". I would have like to see u go 6 months past detox, not touching opiates(ofcourse) Kicking some serious ass in the gym. (which u haven´t if u been powdering your nose)

You are light, 160lbs,......just saying.

You talk about chronic pains?

Why are u suggesting pinning Sust EOD?

Why do u need L-dex for PCT?

I know u have already started, but I don´t like it.
Wish u would have come here and asked questions before u pinned.

Again....Kudos to u for ending a bad habit!!....stay clean.

[PitMaster]

Hmmm..
So I´m getting you´re an addict. Cocaine, or maybe Heroin?
I am very happy for u that u have successfully completed detox. I know how hard it is.
And I have several good childhood friends 6' under, took the easy way out.

From your post I think u are a very poor candidate for an AAS cycle.
Number 1, u just detoxed. U are having withdrawals, even if you don´t know it. U carry a lot of baggage in your subconscious right now, and Test will amplify and surface this "baggage". I would have like to see u go 6 months past detox, not touching opiates(ofcourse) Kicking some serious ass in the gym. (which u haven´t if u been powdering your nose)

You are light, 160lbs,......just saying.

You talk about chronic pains?

Why are u suggesting pinning Sust EOD?

Why do u need L-dex for PCT?

I know u have already started, but I don´t like it.
Wish u would have come here and asked questions before u pinned.

Again....Kudos to u for ending a bad habit!!....stay clean.

Ty. here is for the l-dex http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...-Pheedno-s-PCT
spinal injury =pain meds,
EOD=Matter of how I react to going 2x a week, I gotta listen to my body. It's always served me well. I'll take note and make adjustment on differnt cycle if I have to.
Yeah I already got sh*t for doing this with injury. Lifting is my passion and has helped me climb out of the dark many times. I need to get back to work and support my family so either there will be a post on here and can be stickied that I failed and am parylyzed or I will succeed. I hate that it's like that but it is, I know I needed more time, im outta time I'll be outta a home soon if I don't succeed. Things are going well and I'm gonna kick this in the ass. TY

[PitMaster]

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...-Pheedno-s-PCT
for the l-dex during pct

[PitMaster]

Hmmm..
So I´m getting you´re an addict. Cocaine, or maybe Heroin?
I am very happy for u that u have successfully completed detox. I know how hard it is.
And I have several good childhood friends 6' under, took the easy way out.

From your post I think u are a very poor candidate for an AAS cycle.
Number 1, u just detoxed. U are having withdrawals, even if you don´t know it. U carry a lot of baggage in your subconscious right now, and Test will amplify and surface this "baggage". I would have like to see u go 6 months past detox, not touching opiates(ofcourse) Kicking some serious ass in the gym. (which u haven´t if u been powdering your nose)

You are light, 160lbs,......just saying.

You talk about chronic pains?

Why are u suggesting pinning Sust EOD?

Why do u need L-dex for PCT?

I know u have already started, but I don´t like it.
Wish u would have come here and asked questions before u pinned.

Again....Kudos to u for ending a bad habit!!....stay clean.

ty, the l-dex is something i read from pheedno. EOD is others experiences so im taking note and will make adjustment on differrnt cycle. Spinal injury=pain meds so either there will be post on here that I got parylyzed or I will succeed. I hate that it's like this do or die thing but I need to support my family and get to work im outta time. I do yoga flexibility poses and stretching for 1+ hour before I even start and I pay close attention to the difference between a burn and a hurt. I'm very cautious.

[gixxerboy1]

I'm curious if maybe I figured something out. I realize getting test flu is from putting foreign substance in your body and your immune system trying to fight it thus putting you into withdrawals. suboxone for withdrawals, I know for opiates. I don't know the science on how it works in your body and if it may be linked somehow to help these withdrawals from test flu which are same symptoms. I have no runs, no stomach aches, can't tell wiht body aches, no fever. These come wiht opiate withdrawals, yet i'm leaning towards taking a minimum dose helps with test flu. My restlessness seems to subside after taking a small sub dose. But not sure if it's cuz I have reached exhaustion so this is up in the air.

its not the same thing

[poppz]

Starting off on sustenon .2 shots is all u need per week. Sometimes its not a test flu but a high blood pressure feeling. Just take it slow with the sustenon till u know how your body takes it.youll be OK but stay off the boy.horse.opiates etc. That's shits trash for your body.

[PitMaster]

its not the same thing

I worded it wrong, I don't have runs and stomach aches thats why I think it's still sust flu, just wasnt sure if flu from sust fluctuates like this. If that's what u mean.

[PitMaster]

Starting off on sustenon .2 shots is all u need per week. Sometimes its not a test flu but a high blood pressure feeling. Just take it slow with the sustenon till u know how your body takes it.youll be OK but stay off the boy.horse.opiates etc. That's shits trash for your body.

thx. my girl emt training and we have blood pressure kit she keeps checking me, so far so good.

[PitMaster]

For the record I'll put a gun to my head and end it before I touch any that shit again. It's only uphill from here and only a few years away from my first competition.

[lovbyts]

For the record I'll put a gun to my head and end it before I touch any that shit again. It's only uphill from here and only a few years away from my first competition.

Good luck with all that and keep a good attitude but I dont think that is it. It's good to have goals but you sound like all you have done is traded one addiction for another. You seem to have an addictive personality and although is is far the better scenario of the two you should be working on why or how to control the addiction.

Lots of people get addicted to pain meds exponentially after other recreational use drugs. I have had to use pain meds due to 2 back surgeries for several years to manage pain. I have found though I can use less and less as I get stronger and my goal is to use none soon. I frequently will go weeks without even if I am in pain to make sure the pain is real and not just ghost pain made by the meds. I also use about 1/2 of what the pain management doctors say to use. I dont wan to end up like 80% of the people I see in the office who look like they are brain dead and could not hold a job at a 7-11. No thanks.

It's good you have used alternative things like the Yoga. I have not done that yet but I should and hopefully will soon. I need to work on the flexibility some more. Listen to these guys, they are only trying to watch out for what is best for you, not to make you feel stupid and they are right.

[gixxerboy1]

I worded it wrong, I don't have runs and stomach aches thats why I think it's still sust flu, just wasnt sure if flu from sust fluctuates like this. If that's what u mean.

no i mean its not the same as withdrawls. Even though some of the symptoms may be the same they are caused from different reason and taking suboxone will not help