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    1st cycle gain 22lbs, any advice on second cycle?

    hi everyone,
    i have finished my first cycle, which is 250mg of TE every week for 10 weeks, and i had gained 10Kg(22lbs), and i am thinking about 2nd cycle,
    SOLUTION A:
    375mg of TE for 10weeks, kicked started by Dbol 10-20mg starting 4 weeks
    SOLUTION B:
    375mg of TE for 11weeks,
    300mg of EQ for 10 weeks
    kicked started by Dbol 10-20mg starting 4 weeks,
    any advice on what solutions are optimal for me?
    i am 175lbs, bf 10%.
    thank you.

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    Age and height?

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    How tall are you? Gaining 22lbs on a test only cycle is pretty impressive. So I'm guessing you were undertrained and underweight before hand?
    Either way good job on the gains. What are your full stats, age, height, etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigd89 View Post
    Age and height?
    This. The million dollar question though is how many of those pounds have you kept coming out of PCT.

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    hi ,my age is 28, and my height is 174cm.

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    i was training seriously for 5 years, during which my diet were good: oatmeal,egg, beef, chicken breast.etc.
    before cycle started, my weight is a lean 70Kg(154lbs)

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    What's your diet now? Can u outline it? At 70kg u didn't need steriods you needed a good diet, haven't reached natural Potenial yet...

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    during the cycle i trained hard and ate hard, here is my meal plans:
    7:30: 10 eggs whites and 1 cups of oatmeal
    9:30: 300ml semi-skimmed milk, 2 scoops of BSN 6, 2 medium bananas
    12:00: 250g of beef, 1 cups brown rice
    15:00: 250mg of chicken, 1 small baked potato, 1 medium bananas
    17:00: training
    18:00: (post workout) 2 scoops of Isolated protein, 600ml of catarode
    19:30: 250g of beef, 1 cups of brown rice
    22:00: 200g of chicken, 1 cup vegetables
    2:00(optional): 2 scoops of bsn 6

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    why i used steriod is i trained for 8 years and trained seriously and systemly for 5 years, , i can't put on lean mass, when i trained natruaally, the weight i gain is most fats, not lean mass.

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    during the cycle, my training routine is :
    1. Back, biceps
    2. delts, triceps
    3. off
    4. quads, calfs
    5. chest, hamstrings
    6. off

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    I hear ya man. I've been skinny my whole life and have struggled to gain lean mass with lifting/eating. I'm 40 now and I'm going to do what I have to do to reach my goals. Everyone who says if you're X height and Y weight just needs to eat should walk a mile in my shoes

    Best of luck to you and congrats on your gains from the first cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stickman123 View Post
    I hear ya man. I've been skinny my whole life and have struggled to gain lean mass with lifting/eating. I'm 40 now and I'm going to do what I have to do to reach my goals. Everyone who says if you're X height and Y weight just needs to eat should walk a mile in my shoes
    That's because 90% of your gains come from your Diet, it is THE foundation that everything else is built upon.

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    Did you do a PCT? Remember, time on = time off. 10 week cycle, pct 2 2 weeks after for 4 weeks = 16 weeks off before the next cycle.

    Since you have good results from the first cycle why not do exactly the same thing just change the diet a little. Why not stick to a good thing? It's not like since you did it once it wont work again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovbyts View Post
    Did you do a PCT? Remember, time on = time off. 10 week cycle, pct 2 2 weeks after for 4 weeks = 16 weeks off before the next cycle.

    Since you have good results from the first cycle why not do exactly the same thing just change the diet a little. Why not stick to a good thing? It's not like since you did it once it wont work again.
    I agree with this. OP, you should milk it for what it's worth and keep doing cycles exactly the same until you aren't making good gains. You might also want to keep a little extra in case you have to up your dosage. You know the saying "if it ain't broke...."

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    250mg of chicken?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wmaousley View Post
    250mg of chicken?
    Yeah guys are injecting chicken now... Where have you been, living under a rock?

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    Quote Originally Posted by oscarjones View Post
    Yeah guys are injecting chicken now... Where have you been, living under a rock?
    Make sure you use a large 14g needle to aspirate .


    Personally I prefer egg protein

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