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    Lightbulb -Cycle Advice-

    My profile breakdown is as follows:
    26yrs old
    5'9"
    160lbs


    Cardio 5 dpw/ Weight training 5 dpw

    Cycle: Test E and Stanozolol

    Wk 1-3 & 10-12 Stanozolol 50mg PD
    Wk 3-10 Test E 500 PW
    Milk Thistle 280mg ED

    PCT: Nolvadex and Clomid

    Nolvadex 3 weeks 100/50/50
    Clomid 3 weeks 50/50/50

    My question: Is an AI (Arimidex ) necessary? Also, should the PCT be increased or decreased?

    Hope to gain some good feed back-
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    Hey I'm still learning too brah, but why not get up to 180-190 first before u cycle? Or are u planning to do that?

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    what's your bf%?

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    I think test + winstrol is a horrible cycle unless you are running it for a particular reason at specific doses e.g. pre contest or whatever.
    Goodbye tendons...

    AI - for me, absolutely yes on all my cycles to date.

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    My BF is about 10.6%
    The goal of my cycle is to increase muscle mass, but still retain a neck and not look like "Lou Ferrigno"....
    What AI do you prefer and what dosage?

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    I run adex from 0.25mg - 0.50mg EOD typically.

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    you need to post your diet. Something is wrong there or you are over training doing weights and cardio 5 days a week.

    The cycle set up isnt good. Test needs to be started week 1 when you are ready to cycle.

    And the pct is set up all wrong

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    gixxerboy1 is spot on.

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    @nilrac do you run the AI until PCT is completed?
    What PCT do you recommend?

    My diet is the stereotypical high protein based 6 meals a day, but keeping it with in 1800 calories. I'm here for advice gentlemen, considering this is your forte please feel free to suggest an alternative to the problems in my chosen cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xylophone View Post
    @nilrac do you run the AI until PCT is completed?
    What PCT do you recommend?

    My diet is the stereotypical high protein based 6 meals a day, but keeping it with in 1800 calories. I'm here for advice gentlemen, considering this is your forte please feel free to suggest an alternative to the problems in my chosen cycle.
    well there is your problem if you are trying to build muscle.

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    Yeah you need to stop worrying about AAS and all that jazz and try to eat more.
    And I don't mean to sound critical as I am not the biggest either and find it hard to gain weight. But really you should be aiming for atleast 3000 calories a day IMO if you really want to start growing.

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    @gixxerboy1 Still interested in a PCT suggestion...
    @nilrac ok I will reconfigure my diet and let you know what I come up with. Do you run the AI until PCT is completed?

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    I run my AI up until PCT at as low a dose as I feel is effective. So far that has worked well for me.
    Goodluck mate.

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    Thank You! I live overseas so I have all the gear at my local Pharmacy and want to do this right, if you have any further suggestions please feel free.

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    Xy, read swiftos PCT.
    You run your AI up until PCT.
    Personally I start my AI's about 4wks into cycle.

    Pondering thoughts by Pac Man;
    I sometimes believe they came up with the word Xylophone because X wasn't used enough as an initial word starter in the dictionary...

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    @ Pac Man: Thank you for the advice, what dosage do you find is best?

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    drop the winni and run test only 400-500mg wk

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    I can understand starting the AI a few weeks in, however I commence my AI with my first shot of gear now (I didn't on my first cycle and started getting estro sides). Personally I feel this is better.

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    Perfect! I will pick some up at the pharmacy-

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