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    11 days after last shot, down 6 lbs

    And i dont give a damn, its to be expected as its the nature of the drug

    also ended 30mgs of dbol with 300mgs test
    gained aprox 20 lbs

    appetite is already going down, libido seems to be down a little, but overall mood is better(suprisingly) than my last couple of weeks on cycle

    gonna start clomid/nolva in aprox 8-10 days
    ill try my best to maintain my mass, but im more focused on trying to get recovered asap!

    i bought some b12, but am not sure on the dosing i should take for it
    already started creatine
    any tips appreciated

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    Good luck on your recovery. What are your stats?

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    B12 dosed at 1000mcg a day, generally 1ml vials a day

    As for losing after a cycle your right it's is going to happen. Preventing it as much as possible. Creatine, up calories, Clen ?, b12. Keep a positive frame of mind keep lifting heavy

    And most important have a good PCT

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    B12 will increase appetite and sped up your metabolism, you can take 1000mcg or 1ml/week, with insulin syringe, via subcutaneous. Pct will be grat to start 2 weeks after your last shot.

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    I usually don't start losing until the 3rd week off cycle, you are starting PCT 2 weeks after last injection so I am assuming you ran Test E or C right?

    I was shooting b12 with a insulin pin but IM... Is it standard to inject it sub q?

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    My injections have always been IM with b12

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Pepper View Post
    B12 dosed at 1000mcg a day, generally 1ml vials a day

    As for losing after a cycle your right it's is going to happen. Preventing it as much as possible. Creatine, up calories, Clen?, b12. Keep a positive frame of mind keep lifting heavy

    And most important have a good PCT
    Why, in you opinion?

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    Quote Originally Posted by First Timer 42 View Post
    Why, in you opinion?
    Why what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Pepper View Post
    Why what?
    What is Clen ´s role in preventing loss of muscle in PCT and beyond?

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    Quote Originally Posted by First Timer 42 View Post
    What is Clen´s role in preventing loss of muscle in PCT and beyond?
    Iv read it in a few posts where people use it as part of there PCT. Also just quick reading in the steriod profile says this:

    Certainly, muscle protein synthesis (MPS) must be a part of it, since clen will increase MPS in your body (17)…But it has even been speculated that the growth-promoting effect of clenbuterol may be specific to muscle and that the drug may act in a not-yet-understood manner which circumvents (!) the physiological mechanisms responsible for the control of muscle growth (13). This may mean that clenbuterol can help blast you past “sticking points” in your training by circumventing the usual mechanisms by which anabolism is experienced! It is of note that both muscle composition and fibre size has been shown to increase with administration of clen

    Not sure how true it is but just from what Iv read

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    Let me know what u think anyway?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Pepper View Post
    Let me know what u think anyway?
    I was curious because I was considering getti´n some Clen from Ar-r and add to my PCT for a 6 week run.
    I´ve read that profile as well, but would still like to get some personal experiences.

    There seems to be a disagreement between the 2 week on/off protocol and just staying on for 6 or 8 weeks.

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    Iv always heard of the 2wk on 2wk off being used

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    What ester of test did you use?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonaparte View Post
    What ester of test did you use?
    enanthate , but now ive gained 3lbs back?

    guess i jumped the gun on the weight decline

    i do feel my old elbow injury creeping back in

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