does ethenate lower b,f levels ?

**tcook** · 06-30-2011, 09:36 AM

just wondering as i know with ethenate you add alot of water weight but does it also help reduce fat levels fro someone who if already lowish b,f say 14% taking 500mg e,w ??
cheers

**Mooseman33** · 06-30-2011, 10:11 AM

no..

**Sulixe** · 06-30-2011, 10:37 AM

no steroid will make you lose fat.

some steroid cause no water retention and give the muscle a harder look, thats why theyre called "cutter" steroids .

Diet will make you lose fat, not the substances used. you could lose fat on dbol .

**Bonaparte** · 06-30-2011, 01:10 PM

You will lose bodyfat faster than normal so long as you undereat while on AAS. So yeah, you can cut on Test.

**PK-V** · 06-30-2011, 01:31 PM

Yes, testosterone will lower body fat levels both directly and indirectly

(Directly) it depends on the particular androgen's ability to bind to the androgen receptor (tren been a strong binder to the AR is why most people cut fat when on) also the effects of testosterone on the glucocorticoid receptors can allow them to decreased lipid accumulation

(Indirectly) By increasing BMR due to lean body mass, increased nitrogen retention.... (the list goes on and on)

But the real question is why would you want to use testosterone for what I assume is for strictly fat loss when there is much efficient/safer options out there in the form of thermogenics/stimulants

**awms** · 06-30-2011, 03:59 PM

In theory yes it will but it also depends on the person and the diet. If you can control your estrogen which in come people can be tough! yes you will most likly loose fat while on cycle, but if you do not control estogen then you could end up gaining fat.

I find it very easy to keep fat off even when bulking with test but I always use an anti e and eat clean. I often loose fat even with a calorie surplus...nothing crazy but around 1%.

**cantbetouched** · 06-30-2011, 04:42 PM

yes!

**cantbetouched** · 06-30-2011, 04:43 PM

read THE PROFILE IN THE SEROID PROFILE SECTION. there are studies you can look at to get your full ANSWER.

**ACE5HIGH** · 06-30-2011, 05:38 PM

Its just not a good idea to use steroids with the intent to loose weight...

Can you loose weight by eating klondike bars... um sure... Maybe If you eat 1 per day and thats the entirety of your diet, but is it the best means to an end? hell no.

Try and ECA stack.

**5x10** · 06-30-2011, 06:00 PM

yes, heres a study i just read about test and its effects
the guys didnt work out, didnt diet and lost body fat while on 300 and 600mgs of test
the 25mg and 50mg per week participants didnt lose any bf

http://ajpendo.physiology.org/content/281/6/E1172.full

**cantbetouched** · 06-30-2011, 06:10 PM

yep good article same one on this site.!

**27300man** · 07-01-2011, 04:28 PM

Good find 5X10!

**dirtybrd** · 07-02-2011, 06:00 AM

Yes, and as for water retention you can stop that by not eating much salt and taking an AI. I'm on Test E and Deca currenty and have yet to put on much if any water weight. I eat a low salt diet, I have to eat some as I sweat alot due to my job. But I also take .25mg of Liquidex on pin days, so every 3.5 days.