Bulk Powders

[DAAS]

So I was looking into bulk powders.
Most the web sites that come up from google search are china.
Does most bulk come from china.
How often are powders scammed compared to vials or amps?
Minimum orders seem to be .5 kilos. About how much finished product does that make.

[gixxerboy1]

well there is 1000 grams in a kilo. So 500 grams worth of gear.

Anything and everything is faked. It all depends on your source for anything.

And this seems borderline fishing and there is no fishing

[DAAS]

not asking for sources or prices.

So

Typical cycle. 10 weeks of 500mg per week= 5,000mg per cycle.
500grams of gear= 100 cycles***

[baseline_9]

well actually that is 100 cycles if your running half a gram a week for 10 weeks and have 500g

If there were no financial gains to be made by home brewing than why would guys do it...

[DAAS]

oh shit your right. lol. bad math

[Bonaparte]

Yes, all raw powders are manufactured in China (at least anything that you and I can obtain).
This is because China has a legal "loophole" (its really more like an econmic stimulus/global financial domination plan) that allows chemical plants to make and export nearly anything they want.
These chemical plants do not fall under the jurisdiction of the PRC FDA, so there is little quality control or legal restriction.
However, finished anabolics are considered pharmaceuticals, and are HIGHLY illegal there. And don't even get me started on their rec drug policy... (not that we can discuss much about that here).

[Supertotal]

Yes, all raw powders are manufactured in China (at least anything that you and I can obtain).
This is because China has a legal "loophole" (its really more like an econmic stimulus/global financial domination plan) that allows chemical plants to make and export nearly anything they want.
These chemical plants do not fall under the jurisdiction of the PRC FDA, so there is little quality control or legal restriction.
However, finished anabolics are considered pharmaceuticals, and are HIGHLY illegal there. And don't even get me started on their rec drug policy... (not that we can discuss much about that here).

This is what I have found as well, well, aside from the actual details. One thing really bothers me though, that quality control. I have read on steroid forums, may have been here, that the stuff from China has been tested to be anywhere from 90+% pure to 10% pure. Uh, so 90% filler? That's pretty scary. China doesn't exactly have the best reputation for purity of exported goods, and that's just talking about food, let alone drugs. I have found a way to get powders in my country, so pretty safely, but they come ultimately from China, and who knows where they fall on that purity scale? I would also assume that most of the local UGL stuff get their chemicals from China, which may explain why I've heard of so much bunk product. So even if the labs do refrain from cutting their product, it could still be well under dosed.

Doing a quick search I see that most bulk product seems to come from China. I do see a few European labs there, might have even been one or two from the US, but I have no idea how tricky it would be to get this stuff in my hands. I'm not much of a gambler when it comes to this stuff.

I definitely like the idea of making my own gear though, instead of trusting the local drug-dealers to look out for my health.

[stpete]

well actually that is 100 cycles if your running half a gram a week for 10 weeks and have 500g

If there were no financial gains to be made by home brewing than why would guys do it...

1) Because we know exactly what we're getting(potency wise.) 2) It's fun!!

[Times Roman]

1) Because we know exactly what we're getting(potency wise.) 2) It's fun!!

I was thinking of brewing up some tren enth, I can get vet grade here, but expensive. But I need to finish out what I have and evaluate how tren effects my mood....

....cuz i think tren makes me grumpy!

[Far from massive]

These website that say powder is 10% or 90% are either full of shiete or they managed to find some really lame sources. One of the simplest methods for testing is checking the temp that a hormone melts at, in addition test and other hormones are not water soluable yet are highly soluable in other solvents. So its highly unlikely that they have managed to find cuts that melt at the same temp, share simalar solvency qualities, have the same apperence and most importantly cost less than the pennies per gram that manufacturing test costs a major chem manufacturer.

[stpete]

I was thinking of brewing up some tren enth, I can get vet grade here, but expensive. But I need to finish out what I have and evaluate how tren effects my mood....

....cuz i think tren makes me grumpy!

Makes me a little grumpy too.