cant keep it up fully up after prohormone

[Granovich]

is that common ?
i finished the cycle of prohormone 2 months ago. and i can get erection fast and my sexual desire is 100% but i used to keep it up for long time and even during sex if i go do something it stays up. now if i leave it for 5 seconds erection is gone . and need to get it up again and that sux lol
Prohormones are the worst.
anyway i have clomid nolva will they help ? can i use them now even after couple of months, i thought i will be ok with time but its been 2 months and im getting worried :'(

[RoidReaper]

did you use PCT? how old are you?

[lovbyts]

Typical. I hear more problems with Pro hormones than using the real deal and those damn things are legal. SAD...

[Times Roman]

you are 22, and already are experiencing sexual symptoms usually reserved for old men.

Welcome to the club of youngsters taking aas too early!

[Granovich]

it was bottle of PCT that came with it, didnt even finish it as i thought really good while i was on the prohormone

[Granovich]

you are 22, and already are experiencing sexual symptoms usually reserved for old men.

Welcome to the club of youngsters taking aas too early!

well there are few guys here on the forum who are in their 30's and got that problem from the prohormones
so is there a solution lol

[Granovich]

did you use PCT? how old are you?

turned 23 4 months ago

[Granovich]

bumb

[abuleh]

Think you need to be 25 to get help with regards to AAS. Anyway since ph/ps are legal....

It looks like you had an otc PCT and didn't even finish the bottle??? You should go and see an endo and get bloodwork done. Anything else would be guessing.......

[brad1986]

come on guys 25 is not the deciding age. for some its 21 for some its 26. Saying that hes getting these sides because is one year too young is stupid. 25 is recommended age but that doenst mean your not going to get sides. These are side effects anybody can get at any age. .. I must say to the op that that was a stupid move not to use a real pct. Use nolva and clomid asap and see how that works

[Granovich]

Think you need to be 25 to get help with regards to AAS. Anyway since ph/ps are legal....

It looks like you had an otc PCT and didn't even finish the bottle??? You should go and see an endo and get bloodwork done. Anything else would be guessing.......

yeah i just saw this video on youtube of guys doing prohormone and didnt do PCT and it took them 8 months to get back to normal.
i still dont know if its real or just in my head cause today nothing happened to sex is amazing for over 40 min so i dont know!

[Granovich]

come on guys 25 is not the deciding age. for some its 21 for some its 26. Saying that hes getting these sides because is one year too young is stupid. 25 is recommended age but that doenst mean your not going to get sides. These are side effects anybody can get at any age. .. I must say to the op that that was a stupid move not to use a real pct. Use nolva and clomid asap and see how that works

i have them both. how much do you recommend ?
doses ?

[Lemonada8]

Get some bloodwork done. Tell ur doc u took prohormone and u may get some hcg nolva and clomid

[songdog]

Wat we are saying is.Your endo system is more sensetive at those younger years.Not that it wont happen when you are older.This is why we say this.Not beacuse we like repeating ourselfs.But everyone is different.But is it worth rolling the dice?

[Granovich]

if i use clomid for few weeks do u think it will get better and get back to normal if its really happening ?

[Devil_Doc]

Alright homeslice... if u read the section on Steroids and Sides on the main STEROID .COM page it explains that most sides will go away with time for different reasons. the main use of clomid is hormone re=balance "kick start" if you will, and Nolvadex performs the function of blocking some estrogen.... that being said, my suggestion is to pct aggresively and if that doesnt solve the issue then id look at blood work

[brad1986]

6 weeks clomid 100/100/100/50/50/50 nolva 40/40/40/20/20/20 this is what i would suggest

[Granovich]

6 weeks clomid 100/100/100/50/50/50 nolva 40/40/40/20/20/20 this is what i would suggest

is it possible that high cholesterol or high weight has to do with it
im 210 lbs with 17% BF, i was 150 lbs when i started working out about 2 years ago but i noticed when i got over 200 lbs it kind of made it less strong.
also i have bad family history of cholesterol. my brother who is 25 had very high cholesterol. also my grandfather and my uncle had to do surgery in their heart or something

i will do that nolva/clomid hopefully i will feel better cause im thinking its because me thinking of it all the time that does suck!

[Pac Man]

maybe I skipped it because I didn't read most of this thread but what ph did you use

[Granovich]

maybe I skipped it because I didn't read most of this thread but what ph did you use

Tren 13 ethyl from NRG-X labs or something
i dont know if its the reason or not it or just because i added alot of weight including fat to 18% and probably high cholesterol or its just in my head
its website says it doesnt do that problem

[Pac Man]

Well the website is full of shit because that's the same compound as max lmg which I know for a fact will shut you down, blow you up and give you awesome gyno *if you're lucky*

[Granovich]

Well the website is full of shit because that's the same compound as max lmg which I know for a fact will shut you down, blow you up and give you awesome gyno *if you're lucky*

i didnt get any gyno symptoms and i still feel like i wanna have sex alot and i get erected fast it just doesnt stay up long. today it did so maybe im recovering or something but still not good. Pac man any suggstions ???
im gonna go 6 weeks of both clomid and nolvadex and ordered some unleashed to help as well.
thank god i had no issues with gyno or anything. it would have been worst.
i just wanna know and im hoping its not permanent

[Pac Man]

You'll recover. Maybe grab some caber to help with the sexual sides or some liquid V from AR-R

[Granovich]

You'll recover. Maybe grab some caber to help with the sexual sides or some liquid V from AR-R

use nolva clomid and caber (liquid V ) ?
all 3 ?

all that just for a stupid PH . if i did proper test cycle with proper PCT i probably would have got better results and went back to normal by now

[Pac Man]

I used all 3 yea.
liquid v is viagra.

[FCVtec]

I've been seeing lots of these threads lately. These PHs are really messing people up.

[Pac Man]

It's what lead to my gyno surgery many moons ago, egro max LMG

[Ashop]

is that common ?
i finished the cycle of prohormone 2 months ago. and i can get erection fast and my sexual desire is 100% but i used to keep it up for long time and even during sex if i go do something it stays up. now if i leave it for 5 seconds erection is gone . and need to get it up again and that sux lol
Prohormones are the worst.
anyway i have clomid nolva will they help ? can i use them now even after couple of months, i thought i will be ok with time but its been 2 months and im getting worried :'(

Have your natural hormone levels tested to see where your at.

[Granovich]

i will do those 6 weeks of clomid and nolva and use the liquid V every day then maybe a month after those 6 weeks will do a blood work
im praying eveything is fine. its just strange that i have good desire for sex more than once everyday with my gf and today was good didnt let me down
but yesterday was kind of bad. so i dont know
shouldnt i NOT be able to get it up ? or no sexual desire ??
or just effect the erection time length ?

[RoidReaper]

Yes just because you are 25 doesnt mean your steer clear of side effects. Def sick of hearing that shit.

I abused test tren deca anadrol etc for almost 2 years, im going on my 5th week of PCT and im still ****ing like a champ. Balls are back to full size. Getting Bloodwork tomorrow.

However, everyone is diff.

[flyinghoe]

theres no difference between prohormones and real aas. there are two scenarios here. A) it was a real prohormone (very rare to find an actual prohormone these days after the ban) but it still converts to aas or B) you thought it was a prohormone because its marketed as one (most "prohormones" are direct steroids ) so stop blaming it on prohormones. the problem here is you mentioned that you used a pct bottle that it came with, these pct bottles most likely contain natural supplements that dont do anything like tribulus or a weak aromatase inhibitor that is legal. if you want complete recovery of the hpta, a SERM is necessary. also it is not a wise decision to take "prohormones" (most likely steroids) under the age of 25, so think twice next time.

[Granovich]

theres no difference between prohormones and real aas. there are two scenarios here. A) it was a real prohormone (very rare to find an actual prohormone these days after the ban) but it still converts to aas or B) you thought it was a prohormone because its marketed as one (most "prohormones" are direct steroids) so stop blaming it on prohormones. the problem here is you mentioned that you used a pct bottle that it came with, these pct bottles most likely contain natural supplements that dont do anything like tribulus or a weak aromatase inhibitor that is legal. if you want complete recovery of the hpta, a SERM is necessary. also it is not a wise decision to take "prohormones" (most likely steroids) under the age of 25, so think twice next time.

wont even touch the bottle not in 100 years lol
i got nolva and clomid. i have heard that i should take them before i go to sleep on empty stomach thats what i will do ...hopefully it will work

[Granovich]

Yes just because you are 25 doesnt mean your steer clear of side effects. Def sick of hearing that shit.

I abused test tren deca anadrol etc for almost 2 years, im going on my 5th week of PCT and im still ****ing like a champ. Balls are back to full size. Getting Bloodwork tomorrow.

However, everyone is diff.

although u did abuse them before but u did use proper PCT and u had in mind that these are real AAS
i didnt do the pct part and im sure even if i did i would have ended up the same because its not even real pct

[RoidReaper]

I didnt even use much HCG before i started PCT... maybe one shot of 500iu thats it. SERMs took care of the rest.

[Granovich]

I didnt even use much HCG before i started PCT... maybe one shot of 500iu thats it. SERMs took care of the rest.

so i started with 100 mg of clomid yesterday and 40 mg of nolva and will take both for 6 weeks like pac man told me
i was wondering should i add the PCT bottle that the website gave me ? it says it will kick start your libido

[Eazy20]

so i started with 100 mg of clomid yesterday and 40 mg of nolva and will take both for 6 weeks like pac man told me
i was wondering should i add the PCT bottle that the website gave me ? it says it will kick start your libido

No need. You're taking the real deal now.

[Granovich]

No need. You're taking the real deal now.

good
i hope i will recover from this
im going next week to endo doctor to do blood work
and then when i finish those 6 weeks of clomid/nolva i will do another
hope it works. its scary

[Eazy20]

^The clomid/nolva will scew any bloodwork results fyi

[DAAS]

prohormones are satan

[Granovich]

^The clomid/nolva will scew any bloodwork results fyi

so should i do the clomid/nolva or quit them or just not do blood work now and wait couple of months after the clomid/nolva therapy ?