Test E/ Masteron First cycle, kinda

[qwalker55]

I'd like to hear some thought on my cycle, but first a little background. I am 23 6'2" 225 16% bf. I have been working out since freshmen year of high school, I played college football and have never took consecutive months off of lifting since I started, while some may have been slugish. My current lifts are Bench Press ~ 315lbs Squat ~ 450lbs Hang Clean ~ 275lbs (I no longer play sports, I just love this lift). When I was 20 and when I was 21 I took some anavar that I cam across for 40mg ed for about 6 weeks. Now I am serious about a cycle and this is what my plan is:

Test E
Week 1-8 @ 315 mg (225mg every 5 days)
Masteron
Week 4-8 @ 70 mg EoD
-I have nova and Adex handy for pct and sides.

I am Hoping to put on about 15lbs of clean weight and end up 240lbs 16-17%bf. I would like my lifts to increase about 10% (ie. 350 bench, squat 500 clean 315). Hopefully keep most of the strength and about 10lbs of LBM. Thoughts? Am I realistic?

[MR10X]

The masteron will help with sexual side effects but wont do much as far as gaining lean muscle mass.You need more test,something like 500 or 600mg a week to be really effective. I doubt you will put on 10 pounds of NEW muscle in 8 weeks...

[qwalker55]

I guess I should also add, that I just recently (6weeks) got off 5 months of CKD where I dropped close to 25lbs and I lost ~ 7%bf, So I feel like my body is rdy to put back on some of the muscle I lost during the cut.

[qwalker55]

I think it should also be noted that at 225 @ 16% and 235 @16% 1.7lbs of the new lbs added would be fat so it would be in between 7-8lbs of muscle

[bodybuilder]

Test e should be ran for a minimum of 10Weeks. Sounds like you have got a lot of research to do before you jump on to any AAS.

[qwalker55]

Ahh yes the condescending user that provides no information, What do I need to do more research on, how people say "you need to do 400-500 a week or you wont get results" or "8 weeks is too short to see any gains". well I've see gains with 4 weeks of anavar, My friend is 3x the man he used to be and never touched 500mgs or week or 12 week cycle. I played DI football, I've been around steroids my whole life, you need to stop being a prick and thinking your the steroid god because you have 1500 forum post. And if you want to give advice, logical reasoning should follow that statement not "do more research" get over your self

[Sgt. Hartman]

Ahh yes the condescending user that provides no information, What do I need to do more research on, how people say "you need to do 400-500 a week or you wont get results" or "8 weeks is too short to see any gains". well I've see gains with 4 weeks of anavar, My friend is 3x the man he used to be and never touched 500mgs or week or 12 week cycle. I played DI football, I've been around steroids my whole life, you need to stop being a prick and thinking your the steroid god because you have 1500 forum post. And if you want to give advice, logical reasoning should follow that statement not "do more research" get over your self

No need to be a smartass. Many people, like myself, don't see any gains from Test E until the 6th week which makes your cycle only 2 - 3 weeks long. Pretty pointless.

The fact that you're even considering masteron at 16% shows how ignorant you are about steroids, it will do nothing in terms of gaining LBM. Read more and run your mouth less.

[qwalker55]

No need to be a smartass. Many people, like myself, don't see any gains from Test E until the 6th week which makes your cycle only 2 - 3 weeks long. Pretty pointless.

The fact that you're even considering masteron at 16% shows how ignorant you are about steroids, it will do nothing in terms of gaining LBM. Read more and run your mouth less.

Despite your blatant dislike for my commentary, I can respect a comment with at least some reasoning behind the premise. The reason I am taking masteron, which admittedly might be in vain, is 3 fold. First, I dont want a lot of water weight, second, I feel I am prone to gyno because I briefly experienced it during puberty and masteron will hopefully apply a kick that adex/nova wont, while still combating estrogen effects, finally it was the easiest thing to get my hands on besides test, and I dont want to run too much test bc of, as state before, gyno. I am no bodybuilder, I just like girls and pick up basketball, ha, so anything to help that! And I run my mouth when people are just disrespectful for no valid reason, if you feel I am mistaken about something tell me don't just say you don't anything do research, this is research! now is 250 @ 10 weeks better than 315 @ 8?

[zaneisgreat]

Why not consider shooting test prop if you don't want to retain water? .... Yes masteron, by all means, is a great addition to most cycles if you have the resources to add it. I just wouldn't expect that much from it and CERTAINLY not count on it for reliable estrogen control.

Test prop would also help you gauge how gyno sensitive you are more quickly when upping doses ie more gyno safety.

[Donjuice]

I'm where you want to be. Maybe even a tad bigger. I start my cut this week though. Also love the ladies and athelitisicm . IMO up the test to at least 500 mg a week . Your already a big guy looking to get bigger. besides the combo of intensity of work out , calorie/ protein intake , The more Test you take the more prone to growth , FACT.
I'm not bragging at all just pointing out my biggest day in 18 months - bench last 2 sets of 8 315 for 7 225 for 15.
I honestly felt like a F'ing Beast today. Good luck Bro!

[layeazy]

You need to assess you diet dude if u want to make lean gains.

Masteron yes is useless in your situation as your body fat is to high for it to help.

If gyno is your issue check out arr the sponsor of the board they have everything imaginable to stop your gyno.

[bodybuilder]

Ahh yes the condescending user that provides no information, What do I need to do more research on, how people say "you need to do 400-500 a week or you wont get results" or "8 weeks is too short to see any gains". well I've see gains with 4 weeks of anavar, My friend is 3x the man he used to be and never touched 500mgs or week or 12 week cycle. I played DI football, I've been around steroids my whole life, you need to stop being a prick and thinking your the steroid god because you have 1500 forum post. And if you want to give advice, logical reasoning should follow that statement not "do more research" get over your self

Lol this is what i get for trying to help. First of all who runs test e (long ester) and Masteron (short ester) in the same cycle. Secondly you seem to think that nolva and adex is enough for your pct. What about clomid and hcg. Like i said you have got a lot more research to do buddy.

[Stew26]

gwalker55,

Wandering how you got on with your cycle mate i'm about to run the same one
??

[The Bear 79]

gwalker55,

Wandering how you got on with your cycle mate i'm about to run the same one
??

Its not likely you're gona get a response from a member who's last activity on this forum was in July of last year.....................I'm just sayin.............

[Stew26]

The Bear,

You never know man, i just joined this site today so it's a massive long shot i know. It would be good to hear from someone who has done the same cycle as i'm about to.

[The Bear 79]

You will get all the help you need if you start your own thread. There are MANY guys here that have ran that very cycle.

[Stew26]

Cheers mate. I think i have to wait until have the right access to start a thread, my account still sais it hasn't been activated yet.

[The Bear 79]

Then how are you posting here?

[Stew26]

Good question lol Where is the link the create a thread? When i try and access my profile it sais i have to wait for activation. Thanks mate.

[The Bear 79]

Go to the top of the Q & A home page, on the left side you will see a blue button that says "+Post New Thread"

[Stew26]

Thanks mate just found it i appreciate it that a lot.

[ifthatswhatittakes]

I dont think he wants to listen huh? Man if you are still looking what is the point of a cycle if you are not going to push the enevelope some. WHat youa r trying to do is just give your self placebo. Do the research its all on here and dont be a ()&^%% and people on here will help you everything.

[The Bear 79]

Again......................Its not likely you're gona get a response from a member who's last activity on this forum was in July of last year.

[ifthatswhatittakes]

yup i am in idiot, did not follow. Thanks