STERIODS AT 19yo!!!

[little_dude]

Hi guys ok long story short, my friend is 19 and is cycling (test e). He is one of those "Arnie did it and he's fine, and he didnt even do PCT" type of people. He states that as long as he does a correct PCT he'll be fine, but i tell him its still dangerous at his age.

Does anybody have any links to people with stories about how they have cycled at 18/19 correctly with a proper PCT and still had problems, I would really appreciate it. But please only give me links to people who did everything right and still got problems, coz if there stories where the user didnt do PCT or cycled incorrectly then he's going to easily dismiss it. Thanks

PS. also no need for the usual big articles on the dangers of cycling too young (he wont read them/has read them before), I would like real life experiences thanks

[marcus300]

You and your friend really need to stop using AAS. Problems can occur later on in life and in some issue can come on fast, it all depends on that person. If you check out the HRT forum you will see plenty of issues and if you do some research on all the forums you will find it scattered all over them, we dont don't just say it to scare you.

There isn't an exact age were we all stop developing and growing because this is determined by our genes and DNA, we are all genetically programmed individually and we inherit our genes from our parents. To give an exact age we stop growing would be incorrect because everyone's genetic blueprint is different.The main development of our bodies is up to the age of 21yrs of age but this can vary between individuals. There are parts of our bodies what carry on developing and adjusting slowly up until the age of 25yrs old, an example of this is the brain. The Endocrine system is a part of the brain what is very complex and keeps our bodies in a homeostasis state. Our testosterone levels start raising and roughly peak around 25yrs old and then start to slowly decline, so even though some of us may have stopped growing at the age of 21yrs old, others may still be developing up until the age of 25yrs old.

I have recently spoken to my Endo regarding this matter and he tells me that the HPTA is very sensitive and as many pathways how it regulates the human body, he states steroids disrupt the normal balance of hormones in the body which can cause reversible and irreversible changes at any age but risks are far more if you administrate exogenous androgens during development, this will put you in a very unnatural environment at a crucial time and your hormones should be treated with care especially in the early stages of maturity. The adverse effects can be erratic behaviour of the HPTA and potentially therapy when your older.

I did ask him what age he would think would be the safest as far as risk to damages and he said many endocrinologist suggest full maturation is reached by 25 years of age and this would also give the HPTA time to be established with your natural hormone balance and patterns. I personally feel 24-25yrs old would also be ideal starting point to get bloodwrok drawn to see exact what your natural levels are before starting any kind of cycles and waiting till you have reach your testosterone peak would be a good starting point, for me there is to much evidence over the forums and what I've seen personally over the last 25yrs I've been bodybuilding. Obviously it isn't going to be all 19- 21yr old bodybuilders who suffer side effects what are irreversible but I am edging on the side of caution what age I advice to the newbies.
Marcus

["Maximus"]

^^Very well stated. I would push this threshold between 27 and 30 yrs of age; that's when one can truly start experiencing the benefits of AAS, assuming one have an established fitness base.

[little_dude]

You and your friend really need to stop using AAS. Problems can occur later on in life and in some issue can come on fast, it all depends on that person. If you check out the HRT forum you will see plenty of issues and if you do some research on all the forums you will find it scattered all over them, we dont don't just say it to scare you.

There isn't an exact age were we all stop developing and growing because this is determined by our genes and DNA, we are all genetically programmed individually and we inherit our genes from our parents. To give an exact age we stop growing would be incorrect because everyone's genetic blueprint is different.The main development of our bodies is up to the age of 21yrs of age but this can vary between individuals. There are parts of our bodies what carry on developing and adjusting slowly up until the age of 25yrs old, an example of this is the brain. The Endocrine system is a part of the brain what is very complex and keeps our bodies in a homeostasis state. Our testosterone levels start raising and roughly peak around 25yrs old and then start to slowly decline, so even though some of us may have stopped growing at the age of 21yrs old, others may still be developing up until the age of 25yrs old.

I have recently spoken to my Endo regarding this matter and he tells me that the HPTA is very sensitive and as many pathways how it regulates the human body, he states steroids disrupt the normal balance of hormones in the body which can cause reversible and irreversible changes at any age but risks are far more if you administrate exogenous androgens during development, this will put you in a very unnatural environment at a crucial time and your hormones should be treated with care especially in the early stages of maturity. The adverse effects can be erratic behaviour of the HPTA and potentially therapy when your older.

I did ask him what age he would think would be the safest as far as risk to damages and he said many endocrinologist suggest full maturation is reached by 25 years of age and this would also give the HPTA time to be established with your natural hormone balance and patterns. I personally feel 24-25yrs old would also be ideal starting point to get bloodwrok drawn to see exact what your natural levels are before starting any kind of cycles and waiting till you have reach your testosterone peak would be a good starting point, for me there is to much evidence over the forums and what I've seen personally over the last 25yrs I've been bodybuilding. Obviously it isn't going to be all 19- 21yr old bodybuilders who suffer side effects what are irreversible but I am edging on the side of caution what age I advice to the newbies.
Marcus

K thanks Marcus. BTW I myself am not cycling, I am the one trying to convince him to stop. I have been reading from this site long enough to know not to cycle at 19.

[marcus300]

K thanks Marcus. BTW I myself am not cycling, I am the one trying to convince him to stop. I have been reading from this site long enough to know not to cycle at 19.

Maybe not 19yrs old but you did at 22yrs at 20% bf http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...ol)&highlight=

You and your friend should stop thinking the answer is in an injection or pill and concentrate on diet and training, at your age you can build some good solid muscle tissue.

[little_dude]

Maybe not 19yrs old but you did at 22yrs at 20% bf http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...ol)&highlight=

You and your friend should stop thinking the answer is in an injection or pill and concentrate on diet and training, at your age you can build some good solid muscle tissue.

That was my friend (who actually didnt go through with it in the end) as I stated in a post. I am 19 5'6 135 lbs who posted in the deit section

[little_dude]

Maybe not 19yrs old but you did at 22yrs at 20% bf http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...ol)&highlight=

You and your friend should stop thinking the answer is in an injection or pill and concentrate on diet and training, at your age you can build some good solid muscle tissue.

This was me

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...lz)&highlight=

[little_dude]

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