Sound Good?

**patshea098** · 07-11-2011, 11:12 PM

400mg Test Enan/week~ 10 weeks
200mg Primobolan depot/week~ 10 weeks
Dbol 30mg/day ~ 4-5 weeks
Arimidex 1mg/day ~ 4 weeks, .5mg/day ~ 6 weeks
1 week break

PCT: 4 weeks
Clomid 200mg/day, 100mg/day, 100mg/day, 50mg/day
Nolvadex 40mg/day, 40mg/day, 20mg/day, 20mg/day

Training- 6 years
5'11 200 pounds
will be 3rd cycle
feel free to tweek it

**Dr Pepper** · 07-11-2011, 11:24 PM

Stats brooooo?

**patshea098** · 07-12-2011, 12:48 AM

updated

**The Titan99** · 07-12-2011, 12:59 AM

What are your goals? BF%? Primo and Dbol on the same cycle seems at odds. (I don't like Primo anyway. It's too expensive and useless compound second only the EQ. Prefer Masteron or Var for cutting.) I'd drop one depending on what your trying to do...PCT looks a little heavy for this cycle too. I'd go 100/50/50/50 on the Clomid and 40/20/20/20 on the Nolva.

I'd also run HCG through out at 250 iu's twice a week right up to PCT and drop that AI unless you start to get intolerable estro sides.

My 2 cents...

**Dr Pepper** · 07-12-2011, 02:41 AM

Originally Posted by patshea098

updated

Those are not stats brother.

Age?
Bf%?
Diet?

**patshea098** · 07-12-2011, 02:06 PM

im 21, bf% im not sure, i imagine 12 or very close to it. I have 18 inch arms, 43 inch chest, pushing up roughyl 365 maybe more on bench. Diet, dont have one currently, not a strict one atleast, but i dont eat bad i eat pretty clean as it is.

well i posted those cause i see alot of people usually ask to see if its too heavy a cycle depending on how many times they have and what not.

I was thinking primo because of the low side effects/near none, and high fat loss, and alright strenght and weight gains. Reason of course for dbol is to jump start the test e. I have taken Test E and Dros E together before and i loved it, and stats compared to primo seems that id lose more fat which i like the sound of.
im very open to suggestions and criticism and what not so everyone feel free

**patshea098** · 07-13-2011, 11:27 AM

bump

**The Titan99** · 07-13-2011, 01:12 PM

I hate to sat it, and wouldn't have if not for the bump, but at 21 doing steroids without your diet sorted, and I mean macros, TDEE calories tracked and a deficit or surplus based on whether your trying to bulk or cut (at your size you need to pick one, doing both is for people just starting out) is kind of like putting rocket fuel in your brand new Escort before you've ever really driven it, to just run down to 7-11 for a slurpy, in the freezing rain...at night!! The one thing that makes no sense in that plan is the rocket fuel. You don't need it, especially in a new car, and especially on the ice, and especially just to do something vague like "losing more fat" or get a slurppy. I'm not trying to be sarcastic, but your on Test E right now!! Whats missing is the well thought out, clean, strict diet. I'm 47 and was playing college football when I was your age, training hard but eating pizza and drinking Budwieser. Back then we didn't know anything about diet. Looking back I wish I did. I was huge anyway, but could have been a real beast. Never needed the juice till much later though.

Anyhoo, this is why your not getting a huge response to this thread I think.

Regardless of whether your going to cycle or not, my suggestion is to dial in that diet, it will make all the difference in the world.

P.S. Sounds like your more of a new Corvette, not an Escort (new Escorts don't have 18 inch arms, cut) just saying that for the sake of analogy...

There, good deed done and I'm only 2 hours into my day, HA!

**gixxerboy1** · 07-13-2011, 01:48 PM

thats way to much a-dex. i would go .5mg eod

I'd prob drop the primo too

**patshea098** · 07-13-2011, 05:51 PM

alright drop the primo pick up masteron ? If i do that what about doing DPL 4-fifty that "hybrid"? I did that my last cycle and it worked wonders. I got up to 215-220 and put up 425 bench at end of cycle (got cocky went for 435 hurt shoulder which is why my max is so far down now).

the titan i appreciate it, i take criticism and all that well, its all helpfull. Im deffinatly trying to get my size back so bulking but i like staying decently lean. And i deffinatly understand the diet, which i will diet on my cycle very well. Just saying at this moment im not anyhting strict, but still eat pretty clean as it is.