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Now before anyone jumps on my back about this. I DONT plan on doing it, just a question of curiosity thats all, were all here to learn right?
Anywho, what do you think the benefit would be to run tren by itself @ 300mg a week with 500iu HCG eod (To keep balls fresh).
Anyone ever done this protocol OR a tren only protocol.
Really?Quote:
Originally Posted by RoidReaper
Horrible idea.Quote:
Originally Posted by RoidReaper
Why ask it if you know it is bad and you know everyone here is going to tell you its bad?
Just curiosity. ive never ran anything alone, always had test. I just keep reading about Tren only cycles, and just curious to the results. Is that wrong to wonder? lol jeez.
Did you not post around a month ago that you were not doing AAS anymore?
I remember that, he also said he lost his gf or wife because of AAS....Quote:
Originally Posted by terraj
Where in the thread did i say i was taking Tren by itself.Quote:
Originally Posted by terraj
The curiosity implies intent to use...Quote:
Originally Posted by RoidReaper
Ive taken a shitload of tren in my past dude. I was just wondering what the benefits of running it ALONE was, and why people do it.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheClinch
Send DRAMBRO a pm asking the same question :P
not a smart idea, HCG wont produce enough test in your body to prevent issues. but as u know, it all depends on your body and how it reacts
I could give a sh!t if you use tren. I was referring to your question about the bunk idea of running tren alone.Quote:
Originally Posted by RoidReaper
You already know its highly suppressive on the HTPA. You know you need aggressive PCT to bounce back. I've seen you in the threads reading about the necessity of using test with tren.
I guess my assuming you already knew HCG isn't known for having comparative affects on natural test levels like an injection of test was my mistake.
It's a horrible idea, the rest is just lip service. Anyone who will advise this strategy shouldn't be advising.
Id never advise anyone to do it, I was just wondering why people do it, id still never run it without at least a TRT dose. Damn dude, chill out.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheClinch
I was about to punch you in the dick RR but I understand curiosity, I too am a cat and I walk on high wire to see if I will splat..ah shit mess kicking in.
I've seen guys run very low dose Tren for long term hardening and they love it, I wouldn't do it though
I've ran tren by itself. Started using tren in 2003 and ran 3 tren only cycles. Never had a problem with libido. The only issue i had, and it was bad, was being tired all the damn time. Wake up and feel good for 4-5 hours, then bam, ready to take a damn nap!! I missed several workouts cause of it. That stopped when i started using test w/it, but still the insomnia keeps me somewhat fatigued. But that's just one of the sides you have to deal w/when using tren.
O yea before I went all bubbly I was going to say that ghrp seemed to keep all insomnia sides away.
Ive ran it myself TREN personally without testosterone and it was a major mistake.
Did fine until week 3-4 then my sex drive totally went out the window. Like a limp
noodle. The lethargy was horrible. I couldnt sleep enough. When I had my testosterone
levels checked they were only a little over 100ng/dl. I got shut down quick.
I think TREN is one of the best AAS ever created but I would never run it alone.
I wouldnt dare try that:)
i guess an advantage of running tren alone would be complete lack of estrogenic side effects, if you're really prone to estrogen bitchtits or water retention.
You could take some Masteron along with the Tren,it doesnt convert to estrogen and would help with the sexual side effects.It wouldnt take much either.
not true if my blood work was anything to go byQuote:
Originally Posted by Sulixe
tren can still cause them side effects even if used alone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sulixe
would never run anything without test. EVER.
why would you risk your system shutting down, no libido, no strength etc????
no mate!!!!!
Your natty test would aromatize more resulting in increased estrogen then with suppression of natty test u still have similar issues with too low estro.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sulixe
Well arent you getting shut down regardless? Im pretty sure test shuts you down.Quote:
Originally Posted by bradhore
Yea you're shut down regardless but when running with test you're keeping a good balance to help negate the sides.
I believe that's what he was referring to.
true was just making sure lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Pac Man
I went through a destructive phase about 6 years ago when I ran 125mg of tren ed for 4 months straight with nothing else, well besides massive amounts of e and g every weekend clubbing in NYC. My body actually looked pretty good but internally I was depressed, started having anxiety attacks, and couldn't get my dick up without a shit ton of cialis. Then I met a nice girl that got me out of that hole :D
Thats alot of ****ing tren dude LOL.Quote:
Originally Posted by turkishexpress
wtf?! i'd most prob be inside for murder after tht!Quote:
Originally Posted by turkishexpress
LOL no shit, over 700mg of tren a week with no test or hcg or ANYTHING. Id already be in jail! lolQuote:
Originally Posted by dec11
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Originally Posted by RoidReaper
No kidding. I was not a happy person. The aggression actually subsides believe it or not. When I started getting heart palpitations I headed to the doctor thinking it was due to the sudden oncoming anxiety attacks. After a ton of tests everything came out good except for the size of my aorta which was outside the normal levels but the doctor attributed to my 260lb+ frame for the past so many years. Internally I knew it could be due to the tren abuse.Quote:
Originally Posted by dec11