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    help with first cycle

    i am planning on doing my fist cycle in 6 weeks once i have lost a bit more fat,
    i am planning on runnin 350mg a week of test e in two jabs of 175 monday for 10 weeks.
    the questions i have are
    1. would it be a good idea to use test p for weeks 9 and 10 so i can start pct staright away?
    2. should i use hcg considering i am doing a low dose as my first cycle,
    3. should i use aromasin or arimidex or are they the same thing??
    i am mostly concerned in doing stuff that will help in keeping gains made as i dont want to do a cycle in which i will lose what i gain when finished

    any help will be much appreciated!

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    Lets see some stats?

    You are asking questions that you should have researched on your own. IE

    Aero and Adex

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    im 25 212lb 6 foot 1 been training several years solidly for bout a yearr bench 100kg squat 110kg deadlift 110kg!!! i have done loads of research just wanted someone's opinions the cycle i will be taking which has changed slightly to the following:
    400mg test e twice a week monday and thursday for 12 weeks


    from what i have read i am thining hcg from week 5 - 12 switching to test p for weeks 10, 11 and 12 so i can start pct straight away (nolva). also thinkin to take aromasin throughout from what i have read aromasin is better that adex???
    Last edited by sdog1313; 07-24-2011 at 11:04 AM.

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    First Cycle,
    Test e 250mg every 3.5 days
    aero 10mg EOD
    HCG weeks 2-12 250Iu's twice a week.

    PCT Starts after the last Ester has left your body

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    dont bother with test p at the end, its used for a kick start to a test e cycle. Using it at the end wont really do what you are wanting. Personally, i love prop and would go that route anyways for a shorter cycle.

    use hcg on cycle 250ius 2x a week, and in the 2 weeks of no shots before pct ramp it up to 500iu if u feel u need it. Then stop when u start pct.

    aromasin is a suicide inhibitor, adex is not. i would choose aromasin over adex. *but i dont use these on a test prop cycle so thats off drug action and reading everyone elses uses and results.

    IMO u wanna keep ur gains, test p has less bloat so u dont have as much water loss when ur said and done. I lost maybe 8 lbs during pct, and i didnt have the greatest diet etc, so when done proper you wouldnt lose that much. but like i said, i love prop

    whats ur planned pct?
    and rewrite ur cycle plan like so:

    test *whatever* weeks 1-** at ***mg/week
    HCG 250iu 2x week 1-**
    pct start week ***
    Nolva ***
    clomid ***
    etc... makes it easier to see your whole plan w/o reading a bunch and easier to help.
    thats just a basic start, ull konw what i mean if u look at some other threads.
    Last edited by Lemonada8; 07-24-2011 at 12:19 PM.

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    i dont want to pin eod so doubt id be using prop, but i read that the sooner you start you pct the more gains you will keep so switching to prop at the end would mean only waiting 3 days rather 17, or does it not matter?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sdog1313 View Post
    i dont want to pin eod so doubt id be using prop, but i read that the sooner you start you pct the more gains you will keep so switching to prop at the end would mean only waiting 3 days rather 17, or does it not matter?
    doesnt matter. The reason you wait on a longer ester is because it is still working in your system. Just because you didnt do an injection doesnt mean its not there.
    test e you wait 14 days

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