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    test level results after 2 weeks on anavar only cycle......

    day before 415ng after day 15, 100ng. so i think its safe to say that running anavar only will def supress you-even at a low does of 30mg ed. after 2 weeks my nuts ached and shrank. also my libido and well being took a sh!t. trying to get my nat test levels to go back up in the right direction with clomid, hcgenerate and aspartic acid. anybody have any idea to as to how long my levels will get back to normal??? thinking about just going to my doctor telling him what i did and seeing what he suggests to get this thing fixed asap the right way

    liver numbers were ok, but hdl and ldl were a little off

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    i dont know why people are surprised it suppresses you. Are you still on the anavar? You can just run some real hcg with it. Or i would do a trt dose of test personally

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixxerboy1 View Post
    i dont know why people are surprised it suppresses you.
    This.

    Let this be a lesson to the folks who are afraid to pin and run oral only cycles without Test or even HCG, etc... yeah, just tell your doctor that you went full retard and now you're in a bind.

    Quote Originally Posted by gixxerboy1 View Post
    You can just run some real hcg with it. Or i would do a trt dose of test personally
    That.

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    ive read for years in every anvar profile that is does not supress at low dosages. lesson learned. its the only gear i ever thought of trying-so im done and want to get everything back to normal. i would have done the hcg or hcgenerate with it, but did not know was def needed. like i said my nuts were killin me. could not imagine goin threw that for another 1.5 months

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    This drug was never intended -medically- for use at 30mg+ per day. Ofcourse it will suppress. It never shut you down completely though, then again that was only after 2 weeks of use! Good to know.

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    Of course it suppresses your natural test levels, why would you think it doesn't!

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    People want something for nothing... they want the gains, without any side effects. Life in general, doesn't work like that. With the good, comes the bad!

    For any newbs... there is NO anabolic/androgenic steroid that won't present side effects of some kind, some obvious, some not so obvious. These are powerful drugs which have a tremendous effect upon the body.

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    Quote Originally Posted by longhorn1 View Post
    day before 415ng after day 15, 100ng. so i think its safe to say that running anavar only will def supress you-even at a low does of 30mg ed. after 2 weeks my nuts ached and shrank. also my libido and well being took a sh!t. trying to get my nat test levels to go back up in the right direction with clomid, hcgenerate and aspartic acid. anybody have any idea to as to how long my levels will get back to normal??? thinking about just going to my doctor telling him what i did and seeing what he suggests to get this thing fixed asap the right way

    liver numbers were ok, but hdl and ldl were a little off
    Did you doctor not take your blood? did he see yoru before and after and ask questions then? If he didnt do it then who checked your blood?

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    im actually suprised it dropped that much at 30mg for 2 wks. Everyone is different though

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    AAS=synthetic testosterone. dbol, sus, anavar...etc does not matter. Sure some have different sides or less/more sides but at the end of the day they are all tweeked versions of testosterone and your body sees it as such.

    You feed your body testosterone and your body will eventually stop making it because it thinks it doesn't need to make more.

    Try some HCG.

    Dude, do a little research too before jumping in to a new cycle. For your own well being bro.

    What are your stats BTW?

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    Quote Originally Posted by slimshady01 View Post
    Did you doctor not take your blood? did he see yoru before and after and ask questions then? If he didnt do it then who checked your blood?
    called the dr and he ordered me a lab slip with all the things i wanted tested-no questions asked
    expected to be supressed, but not to this extent
    stats are 190 @15% bodyfat
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    1st steriod use
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    Quote Originally Posted by nilrac View Post
    This drug was never intended -medically- for use at 30mg+ per day. Ofcourse it will suppress. It never shut you down completely though, then again that was only after 2 weeks of use! Good to know.
    ^^^^x2 ...good to know

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    this is the anavar profile from this site. every other BB or steroid site states the same for this drug-

    So why else may you keep such a high proportion of what you gained on var? Well, I think it may be due to its relatively light impact on the HPTA, which brings me to my final point; Anavar will not totally shut down your HPTA, especially at lower doses (unlike testosterone, which will eventually do this even at a 100mg dose, or deca which will do it with a single 100mg dose). This could be due, at least partly, to the fact that Anavar doesnt aromatize (convert to estrogen).

    Serum testosterone, SHBG (Sex Hormone Binding Globulin), and LH (Leutinizing Hormone) will be slightly suppressed with low doses of Anavar, but less than with other compounds. FSH (Follicle Stimulating Hormone) , IGF1 (Insulin Like Growth Factor 1) and GH (Growth Hormone) will not be suppressed with a low dose of Anavar, but will actually be raised significantly (12)(13)(14) as you may have guessed, and LH will even experience a "rebound" effect when you stop using anavar (3) If your endocrine system and HPTA are functioning normally, you should be able to use anavar with minimal insult to it, and can even keep most of your values within the normal range (5).

    Thus, Anavar may even be ideal for use in bridges between cycles, (at very low doses under 10mgs perhaps), or as previously mentioned, for cutting/strength cycles at 50-100mgs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by longhorn1 View Post
    this is the anavar profile from this site. every other BB or steroid site states the same for this drug-

    So why else may you keep such a high proportion of what you gained on var? Well, I think it may be due to its relatively light impact on the HPTA, which brings me to my final point; Anavar will not totally shut down your HPTA, especially at lower doses (unlike testosterone, which will eventually do this even at a 100mg dose, or deca which will do it with a single 100mg dose). This could be due, at least partly, to the fact that Anavar doesnt aromatize (convert to estrogen).

    Serum testosterone, SHBG (Sex Hormone Binding Globulin), and LH (Leutinizing Hormone) will be slightly suppressed with low doses of Anavar, but less than with other compounds. FSH (Follicle Stimulating Hormone) , IGF1 (Insulin Like Growth Factor 1) and GH (Growth Hormone) will not be suppressed with a low dose of Anavar, but will actually be raised significantly (12)(13)(14) as you may have guessed, and LH will even experience a "rebound" effect when you stop using anavar (3) If your endocrine system and HPTA are functioning normally, you should be able to use anavar with minimal insult to it, and can even keep most of your values within the normal range (5).

    Thus, Anavar may even be ideal for use in bridges between cycles, (at very low doses under 10mgs perhaps), or as previously mentioned, for cutting/strength cycles at 50-100mgs.
    This is why I ordered Var only for my next cycle. (To be used with HCG or Andregel)
    But BW donĀ“t lie, unless there is something the OP is not disclosing.

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    drug was intended for medical use at these doses. Can be prescribed anywhere from 10 to 40mg daily. You need to find seriousmass's log on anavar only cycle. His test levels actually rose.

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    and it did exactly what it said. It had an impact on your hpta but did not completely shut you down

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    Quote Originally Posted by nilrac View Post
    People want something for nothing... they want the gains, without any side effects. Life in general, doesn't work like that. With the good, comes the bad!

    For any newbs... there is NO anabolic/androgenic steroid that won't present side effects of some kind, some obvious, some not so obvious. These are powerful drugs which have a tremendous effect upon the body.
    I really don't know, why you make such a fuss about testosterone suppression. Yes, your mood may be down, but at least for me, it is no problem to overcome it, when I see that I am lifting more and more every day... And I must emphasize that my testosterone suppression during solo Anavar cycles is almost 100%.

    Testosterone recovery after an Anavar cycle is actually a very trivial thing. You will simply use 10 mg Anavar + anti-estrogen for several weeks, and you will easily keep everything you gained. In fact, you can further improve during PCT. I am completely shocked that PCT is regarded as a big problem, when it is a ludicrously easy matter. Naturally, when you suddenly stop using steroids and you foolishly believe that anti-estrogens will miraculously regenerate your testosterone within a single week, you can't wonder that you are back on your pre-cycle level after mere two weeks. People shouldn't parrot all the crap that they find in the internet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steroidman99 View Post
    I really don't know, why you make such a fuss about testosterone suppression. Yes, your mood may be down, but at least for me, it is no problem to overcome it, when I see that I am lifting more and more every day... And I must emphasize that my testosterone suppression during solo Anavar cycles is almost 100%.

    Testosterone recovery after an Anavar cycle is actually a very trivial thing. You will simply use 10 mg Anavar + anti-estrogen for several weeks, and you will easily keep everything you gained. In fact, you can further improve during PCT. I am completely shocked that PCT is regarded as a big problem, when it is a ludicrously easy matter. Naturally, when you suddenly stop using steroids and you foolishly believe that anti-estrogens will miraculously regenerate your testosterone within a single week, you can't wonder that you are back on your pre-cycle level after mere two weeks. People shouldn't parrot all the crap that they find in the internet.
    thought about this as well as i have heard it from a few other members. might add 10mg ed and run the hcgenerate for a month. off the clomid for a few days as i ccould not handle the sides of that either. have also nolva and arimadex so might use one of those in conjunction

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    Quote Originally Posted by longhorn1 View Post
    thought about this as well as i have heard it from a few other members. might add 10mg ed and run the hcgenerate for a month. off the clomid for a few days as i ccould not handle the sides of that either. have also nolva and arimadex so might use one of those in conjunction
    tried 10mg of anavar with my hcgen today and got the nuts achin again! i guess this stuff is not for me

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    Couple of other factors here before everyone freaks out:
    1) OP already had a lagging HPTA. 415ng/dl leaves much to be desired.
    2) His stuff may not even be anavar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steroidman99 View Post
    I really don't know, why you make such a fuss about testosterone suppression. Yes, your mood may be down, but at least for me, it is no problem to overcome it, when I see that I am lifting more and more every day... And I must emphasize that my testosterone suppression during solo Anavar cycles is almost 100%.

    Testosterone recovery after an Anavar cycle is actually a very trivial thing. You will simply use 10 mg Anavar + anti-estrogen for several weeks, and you will easily keep everything you gained. In fact, you can further improve during PCT. I am completely shocked that PCT is regarded as a big problem, when it is a ludicrously easy matter. Naturally, when you suddenly stop using steroids and you foolishly believe that anti-estrogens will miraculously regenerate your testosterone within a single week, you can't wonder that you are back on your pre-cycle level after mere two weeks. People shouldn't parrot all the crap that they find in the internet.
    I didn't refer to testosterone suppression in that post.
    Recovery is an individual thing and there are many variables to be considered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonaparte View Post
    Couple of other factors here before everyone freaks out:
    1) OP already had a lagging HPTA. 415ng/dl leaves much to be desired.
    2) His stuff may not even be anavar.
    Chris Byrd the heavyweight boxer had levels similar when he was tested on mythbusters.

    Depends how old he is i suppose. If he is 21 then it's below normal. If he is 30 then i'd say it's about average.

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    Quote Originally Posted by guitario View Post
    Chris Byrd the heavyweight boxer had levels similar when he was tested on mythbusters.

    Depends how old he is i suppose. If he is 21 then it's below normal. If he is 30 then i'd say it's about average.
    No, that's still low for anyone who doesn't qualify for an AARP membership.

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