Actual dosage per ml takes ester into account.

[vtach12]

So I was confused when I recently read that one has to subtract the weight of the ester to get the actual dosage I.e. ( 200 mg test is actually 140 in long ester). I talked with a rep from a large and well known pharmaceutical company, and he stated that is not correct. A local pharmacist also concurred .
Basically when test is mixed up, it is made with the actually dosage stated. If the bottle states 200 mg per ml, that is your actual dosage if you inject 1 ml. They said don't confuse weight with concentrations.

[Str8Jakked]

Basically when test is mixed up, it is made with the actually dosage stated. If the bottle states 200 mg per ml, that is your actual dosage if you inject 1 ml. They said don't confuse weight with concentrations.

I always thought that this was the case as well.

[Devils Advocate]

Good to know.

[jasc]

Edited due to Possible misinformation, can someone please verify what is stated above

[Bonaparte]

They're wrong. Pharma companies do not adjust the labeled dose to account for the ester weight.

However, they are correct in saying that you don't need to do any math, since longer esters will build up higher in your bloodstream. So 500mg of Test E/week will still be at least as effective as 500mg/week of prop.

If what they say is correct, there would be a mention of this in the FDA drug description, where they explain this with Nolva: "Each tablet contains 30.4 mg of tamoxifen citrate which is equivalent to 20 mg of tamoxifen".

If the vial says 200mg/ml of Testosterone Cypionate, then that is what you have. Otherwise it would say: "each ml contains 294mg of Testosterone Cypionate which is equivalent to 200mg of testosterone".

But there is no mention of this anywhere.
Here is the drug description for generic depo-testosterone (Test Cyp):

Each mL of the 200 mg/mL solution contains:

Testosterone cypionate......................................... ..200 mg
Benzyl benzoate.......................................... .0.2 mL
Cottonseed oil...........................................560 mg
Benzyl alcohol (as preservative) ...........................................9.45 mg


I may have gone overboard here and posted more than I needed to, but I felt the need to crush this misinformation before it starts running rampant and confusing the hell out of everyone and leading to everything being overdosed.

[jasc]

^^ this is somewhat confusing

"Chemical = Formula = Molecular Weight = Mg of Testosterone

Testosterone (no ester) = C19 H28 O2 = 288.4mg = 100mg
Propionate = C3 H4 O = 56.1mg = 83.72mg
Cypionate = C8 H4 O = 124.2mg = 69.90mg

Here, we’re comparing Testosterone with no ester (suspension ) with Test Propionate and Cypionate (basically the longest vs. shortest esters available with testosterone ).

So you see, the longer the ester on the testosterone is, the longer the steroid is active in your body, and the less actual test you get. This is because, for every 100mgs of testosterone cypionate you inject , only 69.90mgs of it is actually testosterone , the rest is the cypionate ester, which must be removed. On the other hand, with the propionate ester you’ll get 83.72mgs of Testosterone ! "

^^^ Would this be correct information then? It was taken from the Official Steroid Profile on this site

[jasc]

I think the wording is more so misleading.... 200mg/ml of test prop/cyp/eth would be just that, but it doesnt mean that each of those 3 contains 200mg of testosterone correct?
Please correct me if I am wrong

[Bonaparte]

I think the wording is more so misleading.... 200mg/ml of test prop/cyp/eth would be just that, but it doesnt mean that each of those 3 contains 200mg of testosterone correct?
Please correct me if I am wrong

Correct.
They all contain different amounts of testosterone, since longer esters have more mass.
But no, when brewing an AAS, you do NOT discount the ester weight as the OP was claiming, nor does any pharma company.

If you still don't understand: when I go to make Test P or C at 100mg/ml, I still put 1g of powder in each 10ml vial. However, the test P will contain more actual test than the test C. That's just how it is done. ALWAYS. We don't play with our powder doses to account for the difference in ester weights.