tren cycle

[mwilkinson]

28 yrs
185 lbs/12.6 bf/5'10"
two cycles so far
1st: sust 250/wk x 12 weeks clomid pct for 40mg/ed 2 weeks (i know was a little short)

2nd: test 500 250mg/every 3rd day x 15 weeks
dbol 25mgs x ed x4 weeks
pcdt nolva 20mgs edx4weeks

just wondering what everyone here thinks of stacking tren with. i was originally thinking sust or test 400 but most common ones i've been reading have been cyp or enth.

any preferences, stack suggestions, or cycles that people love (including pct).

i was thinking a stack along the lines of: week 1-2 test e 125mg eod, dbol 12.5 mgs every 12 hrs.

3-4: 125mg test eod, dbol 12.5 mgs every 12 hrs, 50mgs tren a. eod

5-9: 125mg test eod, 50mg tren a eod

10-12 test e 125mg eod.

14-18 nova 20mgs ed with some hcg

diet would be around 3500 cal week 1-4
4000 week 5-8
4500 till end of pct
protien around 400 grams and carbs around 400
with creatine mono, bcaas, multi, and a shit ton of water and maybe milk thistle

thats my idea for now. i've heard horror stories of shitty sleep and nasty tren sides so any and all imput appreciated!

thanks dudes

[gym_junki]

Why test e with tren a? And test e eod? Why not prop and tren and your dbol dose is very low

[gixxerboy1]

i would tweak your diet now. after 2 decent cycles you should be bigger then 185.
test is test. test 400 cyp enthate sust you wont tell the difference. The only 1 i can tell different is prop.
There is no reason to inject any of the test you listed eod
I would add clomid to the pct and move the hcg to during your cycle.

im sure i got more but there is a start for you

[hankdiesel]

The cycle looks good. I don't think you need 400grams of protein though. I'd lower that slightly and bump the carbs up a little. Tren sides aren't that bad.

[mwilkinson]

i hurt my neck in the beggining of june took two weeks off, then had wisdom teeth out the third week of june.. lost 8lbs and working on getting it back. my weight fluctuates pretty out of control if i don't eat all the time. i thought i'd try to get to 10-11% bf before i cycle so i've been trying to cut but also gain a little muscle back from that month off. thinking about starting last week of august because of the time i need to be off from my previous (last pin last week of april)

so is there a test and tren combo preference as far as ester goes and mgs per week with any of you guys?

ps. thanks for the responses so far!
greatly appreciated.

[gym_junki]

Make it's not the beat idea to run test e a long ester with tren a which is a short ester, you might want to conisider tren e with test e now these two you can pin them twice a week. If you want to go with eod you will have to consider test prop

[gixxerboy1]

as far as the ester combo. If im running tren a i will ussually use prop since im injecting eod anyway.
You can use test e, c , 400 what ever test and tren e and just do 2 shots a week.

[songdog]

To say tren sides aint bad isnt a true over all statement.Now you may not experence bad sides but some do.Now this being your 1st run with tren.Use tren ace that way if you have problems.You can get it out of your system quick.Use test prop hcg is a good thing.Have caber on hand for progestrone problems.Dont need the Dbol with prop.I wouldnt use it.Hit the diet section.You are to light for the cycles you ran.Something aint right I will bet its your diet.AAs can do it all.

[yungone501]

^^^
Songdog, try and proof read before you submit next time bro. I know what you're trying to say but some of the newb might not and get confused. No disrespect, just don't want to mislead anyone here and notice you do this frequently...as do I occasionally.

[mwilkinson]

[QUOTE=songdog;5704404] this being your 1st run with tren.Use tren ace that way if you have problems.You can get it out of your system quick.Use test prop hcg is a good thing.Have caber on hand for progestrone problems.Dont need the Dbol with prop.

so songdog, you're suggesting tren a with test prop... what would be your suggested dose. i was thinking 500test/300tren a week. i've never taken hcg and couldn't find a suggested dose to take for a cycle similar to this what would someone recomend me finding that info or just a dosage suggestion and why would be great. I checked the diets and i agree, my diet wasn't as strong as it should've been. any one else have any other suggestions? after all my researching i'm not 100% sure i still want to do tren now. would anyone think this is a decent cycle to try for my third or should i wait and just do another dbol/test cycle? my main thought is that i'm doing a med/low dose i should be ok.

[songdog]

Well if you are having 2nd thoughts on tren.Just run the Dbol and test if it was good before.Run it in the ground.

[songdog]

Yeah I was responding to the guy who said trens sides aint that bad.I probaly shouldve put his name there.