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    Test E + Clen 10wk cycle

    Hey board,

    I'm starting a cycle next week of Testosterone Enanthate. This will be my 2nd cycle of Testosterone (last was sust. 250)

    During the cycle I will be running 600mg of Test Enanthate broken down into two shots during the week, After Testosterone Enanthate is finished I will run a 2 week Clen cycle IF i have gained any fat to help lean me out a bit.

    I'm also considering taking an Anti Estrogen such as 20mg of Nolvadex x2 a week to help subside waterbloat and other sides. I'm aware Arimidex is preferable however I haven't been able to source any after 3 weeks of effort so Nolva will have to do (and its cheap too!)

    My stats;
    22yrs
    6ft 4
    210lbs
    11% bf (as of monday last week)
    Goals: to gain 6-8lbs of pure lean muscle while holding 11% bf.

    Cycle;
    Week 1: 600mg Test Enanthate. 40mg Nolvadex
    Week 2: 600mg Test Enanthate. 40mg Nolvadex
    Week 3: 600mg Test Enanthate. 40mg Nolvadex
    Week 4: 600mg Test Enanthate. 40mg Nolvadex
    Week 5: 600mg Test Enanthate. 40mg Nolvadex
    Week 6: 600mg Test Enanthate. 40mg Nolvadex
    Week 7: 600mg Test Enanthate. 40mg Nolvadex
    Week 8: 600mg Test Enanthate. 40mg Nolvadex
    Week 9: 600mg Test Enanthate. 40mg Nolvadex
    Week 10: 600mg Test Enanthate. 40mg Nolvadex

    Week 11: Clenbuterol 120mcg ED
    Week 12: Clenbuterol 120mcg ED

    PCT;
    Week 13: 20mg Nolvadex ED
    Week 14: 20mg Nolvadex ED
    Week 15: 20mg Nolvadex ED. 4grams Tribulus
    Week 16: 20mg Nolvadex ED. 4grams Tribulus

    My question is; Do you guys think running Nolvadex 20mg twice every week (tuesday, thursday) is a good idea to help keep sides and waterbloat down. My main focus is to stay as lean as I' am right now and put on just quality muscle which I can hold onto... I really don't want to put on 5-6lbs of water which will just end up dropping off once I'm not on anyway.

    Is 6-8lbs gain out of reach??

    Thank you
    Last edited by dk_001; 07-30-2011 at 05:25 AM.

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    Nolva is a SERM, not Anti-E. 10mg/day might help with keeping gyno at bay during cycle.
    Last edited by carbo; 07-30-2011 at 02:46 PM.

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    why so high on the clen?

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    you can get any a-dex or armosin for the ar-r banner up top. I wouldnt use the nolva like that

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    nolva on cycle isnt good
    get an AI
    and keep the nolva for pct
    and dont start with 120 mg of clen . work ur way up from 20 or 40 by 20 mcg every 3 days or so

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    Of course I load into the Clen, I was stating what the highest amount would be. I've ran clen previously at 120mcg and it did wonders.

    Your right, nolva is a serm however it does have Anti-E properties and like I said I am unable to source arimidex after weeks of effort. I have tried to purchase from ar-r before but it has been seized previously as I'm overseas. Nolva is my last result however I might change to 10mg ED throughout cycle to prevent gyno.

    Can anyone recommend anything which could be taken to help prevent bloat other then arimidex?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dk_001 View Post
    Of course I load into the Clen, I was stating what the highest amount would be. I've ran clen previously at 120mcg and it did wonders.

    Your right, nolva is a serm however it does have Anti-E properties and like I said I am unable to source arimidex after weeks of effort. I have tried to purchase from ar-r before but it has been seized previously as I'm overseas. Nolva is my last result however I might change to 10mg ED throughout cycle to prevent gyno.

    Can anyone recommend anything which could be taken to help prevent bloat other then arimidex?



    Diet, low sodium, lots of water. Bloat is mostly due to what you eat.

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    I would not take Nolva to reduce bload, you can give Proviron a shot as your last resort - 50mg/day. It helped me a bit last cycle, but don't expect wonders. As lovbyts already mentioned, watch your diet and drink plenty of water.

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